DEBATE, MANIFESTATIONS, AND NEWS IN THE
PRESS AND INTERNET ETC. - ON VOL. 2
GenesisPatriarchs, reference on the
book-series on Moses, autumn 2001 - opinion:
No researcher has ever come as close
"... The Danish
researcher Ove von Spaeth does, in his book series: "Assassinating Moses", set
up a quite convincing theory ... I do not necessarily agree in all von Spaeth's
conclusions, but certainly no researcher has ever come as close to the truth
about Moses as he does ...".
"... I have read the
English portion, the chapters about Moses at the web site. Fascinating. I know you are on the right track. ...
My area for study for 30
years has been the spiritual or allegorical meaning of the first four narrations
of Genesis. My approach has been much like yours. In order to study Genesis I
have researched in many areas, including Egyptian Myth ... It certainly is too
short a space here for me to give you any proof of my discovery and work, and
how it draws together and makes sense out of the comments on an allegorical
meaning to Genesis, as claimed by Philo, Moses Maimonides, Josephus and others
regarding these stories ... You have this deep interest in Moses, I do too ...".
Mail, 10 February 2002 - comments
and readers' information:
Envious Scholars - and new Moses-tours in Egypt
After having read "The Enigmatic Son of Pharaoh's Daughter", which is
volume 2 of the book-series on Moses, I can only repeat my great admiration for
the impressive research, its logical conclusions, and the inspiring way of
Obviously the resistance
that Ove von Spaeth's books are met with from some Egyptologists and present
clergy is a result of a hurt, professional pride, or let us just use the correct
designation, i.e. envy. At this moment a number of Egyptologists would wish that
it was they who had presented this research for gaping and jubilant colleagues. Part of the
clergy, academic theologians, we cannot take seriously. For centuries they have
tried to twist and hide reality for people. Dogmas and blind faith is more
important to them that the truth.
Nor am I worried about
the reaction of these "professionals", when in the name of myself I more and
more try to support an active, open presentation of the old narratives in the
light of this new research. Based on this concept the part of my lecturing
activities having their sources in the series of books on Moses has quickly
become quite a success …
In addition I can reveal
that I have made an agreement with Stjernegaard Rejser a/s (Ltd.), Copenhagen,
an esteemed and very experienced travel agency specializing in Egypt, to the
effect that I am going to complete their programme on the special Moses-voyages
developed on the basis of Ove von Spaeth's books.
The concept is a cultural
voyage programme taking us to selected places mentioned in the books. At the
sites and in the conference rooms of the hotels, lectures will take place
presenting the subjects based on the special treasure of exceptional
observations and recognitions that these books - often being the first ones with
these achievements - are now documenting and presenting to us.
Erik Ansvang, Lecturer, Writer, Tour Guide, and Tour Organizer
Ndr. Fasanvej 34, III tv, DK-2000 Frederiksberg. firstname.lastname@example.org &
Phone +45-33 23 32 12 - (10.Feb.2002)
(With Erik Ansvang's permission of February 2, 2002, to be used by OvS)
Reader's mail, 5 August 2001 -
A Lecture Hall Peace Violator
Now it will be harder for the ruling elite in the so-called Copenhagen
University to continue the campaign against authoritaritan-knowledge-denying
books on Moses, published by a self-taught lecture hall peace violator who does
not understand that true empirical scientific training is based on that we do
not challenge predecessors' mistakes and repressions because it will make the
entire rickety edifice to shudder.
We can now follow this
drama which occurred in the light of the transformation of the oldest world
picture and the ensuing emerging religion-ideology which is the logical
consequence of the research enshrined in those books.
Thus, the impression in
summary, and being followed up in Ove von Spaeth's last-released book, the
Volume 2: clear, readable setup, with brief sections that subvert several
thousand years of mythology. We are speechless and had to chew each word a
second time. - The book is, like everything that has come from this authorship,
conscientiously carried out and marked from caution: You may well be friendly
and informative, even if we pull down a couple of world religions on the floor.
(publication approved in writing
of April 23, 2003, by J. Ludvigsen)
mail to editor - 8 April 2002 -
In many ways it has been surprising to be familiarized with the first books
in the series on Moses. I so intensely hope that the rest of the release does
not last as long, so we can be enriched and gain more insight from your
fantastic wording and the incredible research you've done in order to these
books' content will be as genuine as possible. I look forward to reading more on
your investigations of star maps and astro-mythological accounts, not least the
Egyptological statements, and to follow the way to make us readers grasp the
Once we have started and
entered in the books, we cannot break away again. This are books that everyone
should read - even though they probably should be read more than once to pick up all the great insights. - The sophisticated trap in "The Enigma of the Son of
Pharaoh's Daughter" is so exciting reading, - could Moses be the culprit in the
mysterious murder? It's really interesting to read in a different way than you
learned in school. - Also by reading the various critics' statements it appears
that others than me, after reading in different ways or thoroughly rereading,
discovered that the books have been written in multiple layers of perception.
I can observe at least
three layers - one layer for general orientating reading - another for readers
with particular interest - and a third one for a deeper understanding of
knowledge, and perhaps additional perspectives. It felt like a major feature,
even deliberately done.
Ajeeb Arabic Portal, edalilc.Ajeeb.com, Dubai
- permanent text, October 2002 - Arts and Humanities,
"Moses" ( www.moses-egypt.net ) [Translate]
A non-commercial website presents archives of information and documentation
regarding an outstanding five-volume work of advanced studies and re-evaluation
of the status and era of Moses: Moses as a historical person. The work is
founded on secular scholarly research into the Bible and the Rabbinical Texts
combined with archaeology, Egyptology, and anthropology."
موسى [ترجم]En موقع غير تجاري يقدم أرشيف
من المعلومات والوثائق حول عمل مكون من خمسة مجلدات، يتضمن دراسات متقدمة وثورية عن
تمثال وحقبة سيدنا موسى عليه السلام كشخصية تاريخية. وقد قام العمل على أساس بحثي
علمي في كل من الإنجيل والنصوص الربانية، إلى جانب علم الآثار، علم المصريات وعلم
Mosheh or 'Moses' - Senenmut the Steward of
Birth of Moses. - Most Jews and Christians hold to a rather
romanticized version of the Nativity of Mosheh or 'Moses'. In the year 1999 or
5759 common era, it seems to me that I remembered the true identity of Mosheh or
'Moses' as Senenmut the Steward of Hatshepsut. This appears to me to be a memory
restored to me from a previous Gilgulim or 'Reincarnation' (Metempsychosis) and was not the result of any intense study or discipline. It came upon me as a Bas Kol or 'Daughter Voice' (Damamah: 'Silent-Hum'; Still-Small-Voice') in a moment of Inspiration.
Nativity of Mosheh, V'Elleh Sh'mos or 'Exodus' states: - "And, a man
from a House of Levi went, and, took a daughter of Levi. And, the woman
conceived, and, bore a son, and, she saw that he was good, and, she hid him for
three months. And, she was not able anymore to hide him, and, she took him with
an ark of papyrus, and, she pasted it with bitumen, and, with tar, and, she
placed the youth within it, and, she placed it in the reeds upon the banks of
the Nile. And, his sister stood afar to know what would happen to him." (2:1-4;
Sons of the Prophets version) A literal
translation of the original Hebrew is as follows: -
Va-yelek (And went) 'ish ([a] man) mi-beis (from [a] house)
Levi ([of]Levi) va-yiqach (and took) 'es (direct object
signifier) bas (daughter) Levi ([of] Levi). Va-tahar (And
conceived) ha-'ishah (the woman) va-teleth (and bore) ben
([a] son) va-tere' (and saw) 'oso (direct object signifier)
ki-tov (like good) hu' (he) va-titz'p'nehu (and she hid)
sh'loshah (three) y'rachim (months). V'lo' (And not)
yak'lah (was able) 'oth (anymore) hatz'fino (to hide) va-tiqach
(and she took) lo (with) tevas ([an] ark) gome' ([of]
papyrus) va-tach'm'rah (and she pasted) va-chemar (in the bitumen)
vu-va-zafes (and in the tar) va-tasem (and she placed) bah
(in the it) 'es (direct object signifier) ha-yeleth (the youth)
va-tasem (and she placed) ba-suf (in the reed) al-s'fas (upon
banks) ha-y''or (the Nile). Va-tesatzav (And she stood) 'achoso
(his sister) me-rachoq (from afar) l'the'ah (to know) mah
(interrogatory signifier) ye'aseh (making) lo (with).
Moses Poster Print Picture Gallery, The largest selection of posters and art
prints in the world - www.poster-print-picture-gallery.com/000000012/Moses%20-%20(259172).html - & -
www.poster-print-picture-gallery.com - (Feb.2004)
Danish Association for the History of
Religion, Spring 2002 -
History of Religion, 2
Danish Association for the History of Religion.
The DAHR is a society of scholars and teachers of religion, as well as others
with an academic interest in religion and the historical study of religions.
DAHR was founded in 1982.
DAHR is affiliated with the International Association for the History of
Religions (IAHR) as well as the European Association for the Study of Religions
Jens-André P. Herbener, Cand.Mag. et Mag.Art. - reviewing:
"Judith Vogt: Der er heller ikke noget nyt under månen: En mosaik om magtens
sødme (C.A. Reitzels Forlag. København. 1999)", - Rambam: Journal for
Danish Jewish History, 10, 2001, pp. 95-96.
"Ove von Spaeth:
The Suppressed Record: Assassinating Moses,
I, (C.A. Reitzels
Forlag. København. 1999) & Ove von Spaeth:
The Enigmatic Son of
Pharaoh's Daughter: Assassinating Moses, II, (C.A. Reitzels Forlag. København. 2000)",
Journal for Danish Jewish History, 10, 2001, pp. 93-95.
"Judith Vogt: Den store illusion: Religion og politik (C.A. Reitzels Forlag.
København. 2002)", -
Rambam: Journal for Danish Jewish History, 11, 2002,
Moses. - From Wikipedia. - (See also: Exodus) Moses or Môses (משה 'drawn', Standard Hebrew M 161;e, Tiberian Hebrew
son of Amram and his wife, Jochebed, a Levite. Legendary Hebrew liberator,
leader, lawgiver, prophet, and historian. If he is a historical figure, he may
have lived between the 18th century BCE and the 13th century BCE.
According to the Hebrew Bible, Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt. He received the Torah Of Judaism from God on Mount Sinai. The Torah contains the
life story of Moses and his people till his death at the age of 120 years.
Moses' greatest legacy was probably expounding the doctrine of monotheism,
which was not widely accepted at the time, codifying it in Jewish religion with
the 1st (and most important) Commandment, and punishing polytheists. He is revered as a prophet in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
- - - -
Unsere Meta-Suche zum Thema "Moses" lieferte folgende Ergebnisse:
2: The Mystery of Moses Re-evaluated (
An Interpretion of the Moses Character and His Era on the Basis of
Interdisciplinary Studies on history, archaeology, religious History, theology,
Limewoody, Non Imprimatur, 5 April 2006 - Comments
and readers' info:
To anyone interested in ancient Egypt and the Bible
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For anyone who is
interested in the ancient Egypt and the history of the Bible and Moses -go to
this site: http://www.moses-egypt.net/
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Bornholm Journal, - 5 February
2001 (p.11) - Introductury reportage:
Finding the historical Moses' archives
By ERLING HAAGENSEN, Writer, Film Director, Member of Danish Film
Ove von Spaeth - with his series of books as (in total) five planned books
about Moses' historical identity: von Spaeth is presenting testimony about the
books they have found the historical Moses in ancient Egypt.
Ove von Spaeth's interest
is also related to possibilities of finding the historical archives, which Moses
is believed to have brought from Egypt - and which could have been stored
together with the Ark of the Covenant. Both disappeared at the Babylonians' conquest
of Jerusalem in the year of 586 BC. (and were not on the Bible's list of the
seized treasures and objects).
Erling Haagensen,Author, Journalist, Film director,
Member of Danish Film Directors, - Bornholm Journal, reportage, p.11
- ( 5.feb.2001)
- (see also www.merling.dk )
Erling Haagensen also published together with Henry Lincoln: "The
Templars' Secret Island", the fantastic story which became ä basis
of the Da Vinci Mystery.
Reference.com, Secret Testament, August 2008 -
Syrian historian: Moses to be placed more back in
A small observation I stumbled over by my reading of today's newspaper that
may be helpful:
In Berlingske Tidende
(daily) in an article today (11.Sep.2006) from the series "On Muhammed" there is
a paragraph describing a visit to Damascus at one of the leading Muslim
historians (Damascus University), Suheil Zakkar, saying that:
"... He is in the process
of the last 3 volumes of a 95 volume great piece of work on the time of the
crusaders, and then he has planned a ten-volume work on the history of
Jerusalem. At the round table was a 1,100 year-old document, which referred St.
Thomas and his life and the Gnostisc writings. ..."
"... I have also got in
another document ...", he said, and poked around in its stores. "... Most likely
Moses should to be pushed 1,000 years further back in time. ..."
You may already be
familiar with this person and if not, he is perhaps interesting to seek out?
Just for the information - and addition I want to show my respect to the many
fine words you have received along for your work and achievements.
DISCUSSIONGROUPS & NEWSGROUPS, AND QUESTIONS -
CONCERNING VOL. 2
Letter, 28 January 2003 -
Reader's Comment and Question :
The Historical Background Made Present
Mr. Ove von Spaeth. The books are the most informing, interesting, and
new-creating books I have purchased in the past years: THANKS. - I am also very
interested in knowing if it is possible to buy the star map?
At the Farsoe School, I
lectured on your books to the staff of teachers, and some of them immediately
went to the library. Hope this will result in some purchases. My approach: I am
a former teacher of religion and history (also vice-principal and guide at the
History Museum of Aalborg and the Franciscan Monastery), and frequently I am in
lack of - so to speak - knowledge about our old acquaintances, persons from
religious as well as history.
With regard to your
impressive research, my point is that knowledge, which has been lacking, is to
be added to our religion lessons by making our common religion present - and
understandable - in teaching of the senior classes. This autumn I am to lecture
in Hadsund city about our oldest religion history based on you as the source.
:: OvS's reply. - Many readers have
found the books suitable for study groups and lectures or for relation to
thematic subjects - or for writing of treatises. As the writer of the book-series I am happy being able to contribute
with an extra view that you are mentioning.
More information about that kind of use, see
The text about the star
map can be seen via The Senmut
Star Map Decoded, where a pdf-file is available for free download and
print. Ove von Spaeth
Mail, 9 July 2002 - question:
Truth behind the rumour?
I heard a reference this weekend that Moses killed a man. Can you inform me
as to the truth behind this rumour. Thank you,
:: OvS's reply. In the Old Testament
(Exodus 2:11-15) the episode is described very briefly, and it is the
impression that Moses really might have killed a man.
But the ancient
Rabbinical Writings give the expanded version in detail, and from there it
is obvious that it was a set up resulting in Moses being framed. The same
texts show it is uncertain whether the supposed victim was killed. But even
by pretending an assassination, the intention was to get rid of Moses.This
seems to have been a way for his enemies either to have him eliminated or to
get him out of the country.
One of the Fathers of
Church, who was the first historian of the Church, Eusebius of Caesarea,
290, writes (Evangelia Praeparatio 9:27) that there was "... a huge
conspiracy by the court making attempts to kill Moses ...". In the ancient
libraries and from the old rabbis, Eusebius still had access to ancient
knowledge and history. - Thanks for your interest. Ove von Spaeth
The Astronomical Ceiling of Senmut's Tomb Whereas Emmanuel Velikovsky
identified Queen Hatshepsut as the Queen of Sheba who came to visit King
Solomon, internationally recognized former head of the School of Archeology at
Andrew University in Berrien Springs, Michigan, Dr. Gearty, believes that a firm
case can be made that Queen Hatshepsut was the foster mother of the prince
apparent to the Pharaoh of Egypt, Moses.  The ancient temples constitute or
represent "a part of the sky" placed in the terrestrial world. 
The world's oldest known
star map decorates the ceiling of the tomb of the vizier Senmut (Senenmut) at
Luxor (Thebes) and Ove von Spaeth's analysis presents data disclosing a so far
unknown level of astronomy in Egypt 3,500 years ago.  In his [Spaeth's]
books Ove von Spaeth has also documented an exact dating of Moses a chronology
supported by the information of time, which we are now able to interpret from
the star map. 
On this basis it became clear
that the Senmut map does not present an incidental collection of planets or a
copied pattern from possible predecessors. 
Result and Unambiguity: the
main form of the graphic arrangement of the planets on the Senmut map appears to
be created in and with his [Spaeth's] idolized, but unambiguous picture of a
certain configuration of planets in a certain part of the sky.  More
indications: Mars retrogrades (a backwards movement) to the west, which in
relation to the special form of arrangement of planets as at the time of Senmut,
would appear only rarely. 
Ove von Spaeth's discovery of
the information of the contents in the Senmut star map and the untraditional
observations and solution of special, difficult problems in this connection,
have gained international admiration and respect In addition to the original,
international publication about Senmut's star map in the " Centaurus", a special
edition of the treatise with a FAQ list attached is also accessible all over the
world in many important, scientific institutional libraries. 
1) Senenmut (Senmut), named as the architect of Hatshepsut's mortuary temple at
Deir el-Bahri, as well as two burial tombs for himself. 
Sources (905 found)
- - -
One in particular was a certain Senmut, who held, according to some accounts,
more than eighty different official titles and who must have been her [Pharaoh
Hatshepsut's] most trusted assistant.
On History The Egyptian Star Map and Moses
The temple of Queen Hatshepsut was built 3500 years ago in Deir el-Bahari west
of Luxor, and Senmut, the Grand Vizier, who was also a brilliant and innovative
architect, had engraved in the foundation stone a kind of horoscope for the
foundation of the temple ( according to French Egyptologist Suzanne Ratie's work
" La reine-pharaon", Paris 1972 ).
Project Zenith-Spaeth - Ove von Spaeth's neworientating historical
research project The Discovery Specifically: the star map is made out by Senmut,
Queen/Pharaoh Hatshepsut's vizier, during the country's 18th Dynasty, and the
decoded material can be objectively tested through modern, astronomical
World-axis Senmut and sky tradition
Consequently, the dating of the Senmut map might be able to establish more
correctly the period of Senmut and his [Hathor's] contemporaries: Hatshepsut
[Pharaoh Hatshepsut] and the Tuthmosis-kings.
Parallel facts about Senmut and Moses,
Visdomsnettet.dk, Spring 2006 - info:
Moses and Senmut - and extremely systematic and
Concerning the book-series ASSASSINATING MOSES, by Ove von Spaeth:
- The Danish writer and explorer, Ove von Spaeth, has published
his explorations in five volumes about Moses. The books present well-documented
information which reverses the traditional conception of Moses and his
Moses, was he an Egyptian and thus not a Jew? - Indeed, who was
Moses really? Ove von Spaeth's extremely systematic and detailed
research discloses that the lives of Moses and Senmut, the Egyptian
Architect, are surprisingly identical.
The amount of identical events is simply overwhelming.
Indications concerning identity questions are supported by Ove von
Spaeth's books with their extensive collection of exact source
exemplifications and actual parallel facts about the status, the positions,
and the works of Senmut and Moses.
The potential of this intelligent, creative, innovative
initiator, Senmut, who was closely connected to the royal family, is in so
many ways identical to many specific areas exactly according to what the
Rabbinical Writings and other ancient sources inform about Moses' varied
talents and actions, and thus - also according to the Bible - he had the
title, "The Son of Pharaoh's Daughter".
To see the connection between Senmut and Moses requires of
course a starting point in respect of the natural scientific objective
ideal as far as eliminating preconceived ideas are concerned, so that
research can be done with a new view also on the displaced sources.
The authors ability to see the connection between Senmut and
Moses has of course required a starting point in respect of the natural
scientific objective ideal as far as eliminating preconceived ideas are
concerned, so that research can be done with a new view on the displaced
Normally, the biblical research has so far been carried out as
if Moses is only known in the biblical version. Thus hitherto in the
research of this lines by and large all Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Indian,
and Arab traditions, and the records of the oldest Church fathers, have
mostly been restrained as disturbing elements.
Ove von Spaeth's book-series is a genuinely good foundation for
the teaching about Moses. - You can download the folder "Assassinating
Moses" ("Attentatet på Moses") as a pdf-file. (For reading the file the
programme Acrobat Reader should be used - in case, you can get it from
- and it is free).
The material can be downloaded by clicking the pdf-file:
Continued tradition on "parallel lives" - Senmut and
Well written, but also "disturbing", said a Doctor of Divinity who reviewed
the contents of Ove von Spaeth's book, "The Enigmatic Son of Pharaoh's
Daughter". As the book describes, it must exactly have been disturbing for
ancient people to have had to be part of some of their scary rituals of
antuquity, of which many apparently were continued through history almost up
till present times.
But it is also extremely
exciting to "re-discover" the connected way of thinking behind this part of
early culture history. When reading, the idea may even appear that perhaps a
good deal of other subjects from such circumstances has not been included in
the book, as certain standards of ancient way of thinking might seem too
extreme to a modern public.
:: OvS's reply. Your impression is not at all
wrong - you may even have found out how it is, e.g. in Chapter 13 of the
book; originally I had written an excursus about a similar subject, but
some lack of space made it easier to sacrifice this text. However, you will
find it on this link:
- and I want to emphasize
that the text is actually based on exact facts to which perspectives appear
from the connection, some of which by nature may be hypothetical. However,
the connection, which is there, is extremely interesting.
Also in all other parts
of the book examples demonstrate that certain traces of forgotten or neglected ancient traditions may still exist in later history and all the
way up till modern times. Ove von Spaeth
Discussion groups, Shirley MacLaine.com, 27
June 2006 - reference:
Ulla, (Ulla Runchel, Join Date: Mar 2005) - Shirley MacLaine.com - #55 - Location: u. - Posts: 820 -
- 06-30-2006, 04:29 AM - (30.Jun.2006)
"... Thank You For This,
Ulla! This link for Ove von Spaeth is Excellent! - Senmut was Hatshepsut's
Vizier. He was possessed of Great Knowledge and Power. Unfortunately he was
bereft of Wisdom. The Star Maps in his tomb, and all temple constructions he
involved himself with were all designed to insure his place in Eternity. ..."
(Editor's note: Ulla Runchel is the author of "The Crystal Universe",
(2003), - Universal Growth Publishing, Phoenix, Arizona)
Letter, 22 March 2002 -
What signifies the direction of the temple-axis?
The published books of the series "Assassinating Moses" were an exiting
experience - on which I want to express my thanks. Many new and strange
things of the contents you can follow with a great interest and being truely
In this connection I
would be glad to find an answer concerning Vol. 2, "The Enigmatic Son of
Pharaoh's Daughter". This book is mentioning a (surveying-)line of sight
from the centre axis of the Great Temple of Karnak (Luxor) crossing the the
Nile, following several kilometres and uniting with the centre axis of
Hatshepsut's temple at the mountain in front of the Kings' Valley. Is there
any knowledge about this line to be ascribed to a special meaning?
:: OvS's reply. The special axis is
hardly common knowledge. I have made it pictured on a map in my book - Vol.
2, page 64. And the interesting background conditions concerning the sky,
sun, moon, and stars relating to its direction I have especially explained
on one of the present web-site's pages concerning the Senmut Star Map, the
page: "On History"
section 4. Ove von Spaeth
Factbites.com, permanent text of 24 November
2006 - data mining :
Moses in the von Spaeth analysis - and Hatshepsut
1487BC on Moses
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Egyptian, probably his name was Tuth-mosis, and he was the genuine child of
Hatshepsut, the daughter of the former pharaoh, and he was the heir to the
throne in the vast Egyptian kingdom. - Lepsius claimed that Moses was
contemporary with Pharaoh Ramses II around 1500 B.C. However, when it was later
discovered that Ramses II was probably living in 1200, the dating of Moses was
also removed to 1200, because in the meantime the anticipation of the time of
the two persons being the same had become evident. - 1509-1487 B.C. This person, "the
daughter of Pharaoh" is in the von Spaeth analysis being the mother of Moses
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Readers' mail, 14 March 2008 -
informative comment :
I, too, suggested Senenmut as being a candidate for
I find Ove von Spaeth's observations very interesting, although I'm not
well-versed in astronomy.
In my own book, "The Exodus Chronicles: Beliefs, Legends & Rumors from Antiquity
Regarding the Exodus of the Jews from Egypt", (2003), I, too, suggested Senenmut
as being a candidate for Moses. This was based on the theory of "a very
important man who disappears and was not buried in either of his tombs".
But now I am no longer so
sure that Senenmut did disappear from Egypt, that he was not buried and that his
mummy hasn't been found. All of this I discuss here:
In brief, is it possible
to ascertain if a certain mummy is the son of Rahotep and Hat nofret, the
parents of Senenmut. Theoretically--yes.
- - -
NOTE from webmaster, moses-egypt.net: see Ove von Spaeth's replying
data-info below, in following text: "Senmut was a victim to the
greatest major eradication ...".
Excerpt of "Assassinating Moses" vol. 2, - 14
March 2008 - a key to historical riddle :
Senmut was a victim to the greatest major
By OVE VON SPAETH, author, researcher
Senmut (Senenmut) was a victim to the greatest major eradication of a name in
all history of Egypt.
Earlier in his life, when being the Grand Vizier to the king (who was
Queen/Pharaoh Hatshepsut), Senmut soon held more than 20 of the superior offices
in Egypt and at least 80 titles.
To have many titles was
not unknown - however, the majority of Senmut's titles were not to embellish but
because his capacity was immense - so besides being the Grand Vizier he was the
country's main architect and constructor, Minister of Foreign Affairs, chief of
the calendar and astronomical observations, etc. Later - after his mysterious
disappearance - his numerous posts close to the king had to be divided into many
Senmut disappeared - in
the same year as of Moses' flight, 1494 BC - and the new Pharaoh Tuthmosis III
took the power from Hatshepsut by a historical coup and gradually destroyed most
of Senmut's statues and inscriptions. It reveals the intention that all
important memories of Senmut's (Moses') identity were to be deleted. He had been
eliminated as the Pharaoh-to-be - he was not to be known by present or by
Destruction would not have taken place if Senmut/Moses had not been of royal
The impression was to be that he had not existed at all. So, all over Egypt,
Senmut's (Moses') name was deleted during countrywide damnation memoriae,
to a total extent never seen before!
Senmut's names and works
were subject to a collective, deliberate, comprehensive destruction. It was the
most extensive eradiation of names in all history of Egypt! Although headed by
Pharaoh himself (Tuthmosis III) and his staff this extensive destruction would
obviously not have caught so much attention and effort if Senmut/Moses had not
been of royal descent and initiated as heir to the throne.
Destruction of the Senmut
name inscriptions and statues meant real eradication. This was an extra way to
destroy his existence reaching much further than his earthly life, i.e. the
feared "second death", when all memories have vanished.
In Hatshepsut's Deir
el-Bahari temple Senmut's name was deleted in 66 of the "hidden" wainscots.
All over Egypt, in Nubia,
and even at Sinai, Tuthmosis III's helpers erased the Senmut name of most of
Senmut's statues, portraits, and inscriptions.
No doubt that this important figure had escaped - so much trouble would not have
taken place if he had been a deceased and/or had been thoroughly mummified.
Senmut's profile has the outlines of the Tuthmosis family
The one of the pictures with Senmut painted on the wall of his second tomb has
apparently been destroyed, but mainly the cheek and the chin as if the goal was
to remove the distinguished royal beard. And in this case it was an important
part to destroy.
Some graffitis are
showing Senmut with dimples or double chin stripes added - it was a common
symbol of wealth - Senmut in his prime. So, these were not portraits and cannot
be used for comparison with mummies with dimples etc.
Re-use of the few spared
portraits have been easily established by the new ruler - cf. W. Stevenson Smith
in his "The Art and Architecture of Ancient Egypt" (New Haven 1981, p. 226)
making precise statements on their looks, "... Senmut's profile has the outlines
of the Tuthmosis family. ..."
This supports the total
impression of Senmut as Hatshepsut's son, because his looks resembled very much
that of other members of the royal family. And the changes of the pictures of
Senmut in Hatshepsut's so-called red chapel (at the great temple in Karnak) are
so revealing that this fact may have contributed to cause the demolition of the
chapel soon after.
The image manipulation
Only pictures precisely showing Senmut were damaged by the iconoclastic riot. In
order to be sure to win, Senmut "backed two horses" by being portrayed both as
the partly neutral crown prince and as Senmut - and yet he lost. The fact that a
few of his names were not deleted meant that in Duat, the underworld, he was
granted at that place a tiny chance of existence instead of a complete
A grown-up, young man
dressed in a princely and even pharaonic ornate is depicted in the Deir
el-Bahari temple, in a scene showing Hatshepsut's expedition to Punt. This
cannot be the person who later became Tuthmosis III, because he was only a
minor, a little child, at the time of this expedition, which he has never been
associated with, whereas Senmut was its organizer.
Another relief in this
Hatshepsut temple shows - incompletely - a young royal couple (often the Crown
Princess Neferure is suggested as being one of them - and also she
disappeared suddenly from the scene), where the young man cannot be the later
Tuthmosis III due to his very young age. However, the motive may very well show
Senmut/Moses as a pharaonic prince.
Thus, the tactics of
Tuthmosis III could have been to spare the relief and let it suggest that he was
the person depicted as the crown prince. Compare the principle corresponding to
that of Tuthmosis III's when he transformed Hatshepsut's years of reign to his
own years of reign - only to create an official pre-history as a crown prince.
In fact, most of his young years he spent as priest at a temple in the north at
the Nile delta, according to his earliest autobiographical inscriptions.
On the similarities concerning Senmut and
Moses, March 2008 - research:
The Disappeared Traces - Rediscovered
By OVE VON SPAETH
Many people have looked for clues concerning the similarities concerning Senmut and Moses - cf. also data in the answer to Marianne
Luban in above mail.
- From the book by Ove von Spaeth, "The Enigmatic Son of Pharaoh's Daughter", some
of the results in short form can be seen here:
disappeared, many of his traces were destructed. - Correspondingly the Egyptian
traces of Moses seem to disappear, although he had a high-ranking status and
therefore almost inevitably must have left some traces behind, e.g. in
inscriptions, graves, etc.
similarity, summing up the very many special circumstances, available from many
sources - recognizable and equally important for both Senmut and Moses, the
following is possible to re-establish concerning Senmut-Moses. More than 30 very
personal and specific circumstances identical with Senmut and Moses - in closest
detail - are concrete facts:
a) When -
simultaneously in the same country at the same court, two so similar persons
with the same unusual positions and extraordinary expertise were in existence -
they appear not as different persons, but persons of one and same identity.
b) Both "Senmut,
the favourite of the Daughter of Pharaoh" and "Moses, the favourite of Pharaoh's
Daughter", disappeared suddenly from Egypt - and left behind the same kind of
high-ranking posts within exactly the same time, even the same year, in Egyptian
history. They have particular identical fates going as far as specific personal
details; and the Senmut name might have been just one of many Egyptian names of
young Moses, as he as a high-status person had many names - many of these
mentioned in the Rabbinical Writings.
c) Young Moses was
- according to the Rabbinical Writings - leading a military expeditions into Nubia (Sudan) - and the young Senmut did the
d) Moses had great
knowledge about the stars and established the Hebrew calendar - and Senmut was
Egypt's calendar chief and showed his astronomical knowledge by his unique star
e) But especially
this: would Senmut in his tomb show recording of the stars' positions in the sky
at a special time, a moment identical with the episode of Moses in the ark on
the River Nile, if he was not Moses?
f) Traditionally a
queen could rule on behalf of her son, but not - as claimed about Hatshepsut -
on behalf of a nephew. This example is one of many showing that the nephew, the
later Tuthmosis III, was not originally educated or chosen to become Pharaoh.
g) On the Royal
Titles: it is a known fact in Egyptology that the designation "Pharaoh's
Daughter" (Egyptian: sat nisut) was a title given only to crown
princesses, who also kept it when they became queen - and many inscriptions show
Hatshepsut having this, also from the Bible well-known, title.
h) In ancient Egypt
a Crown Prince or Crown Princess would always have - as Hatshepsut in fact had -
the title bjtj (bithia) of the representative rulership to Lower Egypt.
In the Rabbinical Writings the Pharaoh's Daugther in question is called by the
name Bithia which, surprisingly, in Hebrew means "God's Daughter" -
again, in fact, being one of Hatshepsut's important titles.
name means 'the mother's brother' which is no peculiar name if, as in this case,
it is a royal title. - Correspondingly or parallel to this, the Bible mentions
Moses as son of "the father's sister". This title can be seen connected to the
fact that Hatshepsut was her father's (Tuthmosis I) royal co-ruler, the way a
queen often was. And this status was described as his (Pharaoh's) "sister".
(foster)mother was an employee, a wet-nurse at the pharaonic court - and in the
Bible Moses was partly brought up also by a wet-nurse, in the abbreviated
biblical account confused with his mother's name, Jochebed, which was
another of Hatshepsut's titles, meaning 'Queen of Heaven', often used when
Hatshepsut represented the goddess Isis.
... etc., etc. .....
Moses - the great inaugurated. Read about
Ove von Spaeth's
exploration of the ancient Rabbinical Writings and the writers of Antiquity
revealing Moses' later hidden role as Prince of Egypt - and the documents even mention
his insight in magic and stellar world.
Moses was a historical
figure? Or was he a mythical figure? New and thorough research on Moses reveals
a very different and well-documented reality in ancient Egypt. Moses was
Egyptian, he was also named Tutmosis and another one of the names was Senmut.
Who was Moses? - Not
least, one question in particular appears - what have Senmut and Moses to do
with one another?
The mysterious Senmut:
It happened around 3,500 years ago. The place was Egypt which was then being
ruled by the female Pharaoh Hatshepsut. And the main character was the
mysterious master builder and sgrand vezire Senmut whose life have always been a
mystery to Egyptologists. Senmut became known in history due to his
architectural masterpiece - Hatshepsut's temple at the West Bank of Thebes
(Luxor) and his
genious star map.
New and thorough research
in this field reveals a very different and well-documented reality in Egypt of
this ancient era. It has been carried out by Danish researcher
Spaeth, presenting convincing conclusions with solid basis in historical and
astronomical studies combined with many years of intensive studies in
archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, religions, history, and the
Egyptian traditions and mystery teachings and mythology.
Ove von Spaeth's
incredible systematic and detailed research reveals that Senmut, the vezire of Pharaoh's
Daughter, and Moses, Moses, the Son of Pharaoh's Daughter, are surprisingly
alike in their lives. The amount of overlap of events is simply overwhelming.
Evidence of the identity
issue is reinforced by his extensive collection of books with specific sources
on parallel facts about the status, offices and works both of Senmut and Moses.
The potential of the intelligent, creative, developing and entrepreneurial Senmut
who were closely associated with the royal family, fits in many specific areas
precisely to what the Rabbinical scriptures and other ancient sources tell about
Moses' many talents and deeds while he, according to the Bible, bore the title
"Son of Pharaoh's Daughter".
To be able to see the
connection between Moses and Senmut it is of course required that you try to
respect the scientific ideal of objectivity as far as to disregard preconceived
ideas and to research with a new view also at the formerly ignored sources.
Normally, it is often seen that research is carried out as if Moses is known in
biblical texts only.
Thus in the current
research almost all Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Indian and Arab handed down sources
and the records by the earliest Fathers of Church are kept away as disturbing
elements. In this article it is obviously not possible to present the
overwhelming amount of data that can documentate the new theories, but they are
accessible to everybody in Ove von Spaeths book-series.
Ove von Spaeth's so
systematic research is a cornucopia of enlightening information about the life
and deed of Senmuts/Moses and is transferred to us in a vivid language. An
attempt to reproduce the colorful life of Moses as a prince going through a
pharaonic educating will hardly be an easy task. The volumen does not allow
this. But it was indeed a period when the power and influence of the priesthood
grew and challenged the pharaoh's power. It placed Crown Prince Senmut/Moses in
the center of the event.
Background in Discussion: "...
The character of Moses and the story of the flight out of Egypt are now
considered by most scholars to have been elaborated during the Jews'
exile in Mesopotamia. Ditto for the Tablets of the Law, the idea of
which also probably originated in Mesopotamia where royal laws were
promulgated on clay tablets. Unless you of course do have (independent)
sources showing that Moses existed. ..."
Menj, (Joined: 05 Jan 2003 - Location: Paris, France)
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 4:16 am
MANIFESTATIONS ON THE VOL. 2's APPENDIX,
'DATING THE OLDEST EGYPTIAN STAR MAP'
All the following
texts - of this page's Section 3 - concern Ove von Spaeth's treatise on "Dating the Oldest Egyptian Star
Map", which is, furthermore, included (in a version for
non-specialists) in the Appendix of his book "The Enigmatic Son of Pharaoh's Daughter" (Vol. 2 of the series "Assassinating
An extern edition of the
treatise is placed here:
The Senmut Star Map Decoded.
Anistoriton Journal of History, Archaeology &
ArtHistory, 7 March 2002 - from article:
An Egyptian Star-map
The 3,500 year old star-map which decorates one of the ceilings in the tomb of
the great Senmut (or Senenmut) near Luxor (Thebes), apparently demonstrates a
previously unknown aspect of the astronomical situation in Egypt around 1,500
BC. This revelation is the result of investigations, the full report of which
was published in the International Journal of the History of Science, Centaurus
(Ove von Spaeth, "Dating the Oldest Egyptian Star Map," vol. 42:3 (2000) :
The study concludes as
follows: The Senmut map depicts an exceptional event in the sky. This seems to
have produced a prototype for all later pictures of similar celestial events -
but with one exception: In the first depiction, in the time of Senmut, Mars is
retrograde in the west when the other planets assemble around Sirius in the
So far has been
demonstrated: 1) The Senmut maps contain a cosmological and astro-mythological
expression not only as decoration - as hitherto assumed - but also as a picture
of a particular and unique situation in the sky. - 2) This configuration of
the sky can be exactly dated: 1534 BC.
In addition the star maps
may contribute to a better dating of their creator Senmut and also of the
contemporary Egyptian pharaohs - at least accurate to within a decade. -
Author's Web Page:
KMT, Modern Journal of Ancient Egypt, (Vol.11, No.4,
p.10) Winter 2000-2001 - review note:
The astronomical ceiling
"For the Record" (ed. David Moyer, New York), on Publications:
- A lengthy
illustrated article titled "Dating the Oldest Egyptian Star Map" by Ove von
Spaeth (concerning the astronomical ceiling of the Deir el Bahari tomb of
Hatshepsut's minion, Senenmut) has been published in Centaurus: The
International magazine of Mathematics, Science, and Technology (Vol. 42, No. 3,
2000, Munksgaard, Copenhagen).
David Moyer, ed., - KMT Modern Journal of Ancient Egypt, Vol.11, No.4,
p.10 - (Winter 2000-2001)
--The first one was unable to load, it seems the link is wrong, though the
second link I can comment on. It does not have any dispute and is evident by
its own words that it does not conflict with the date of the flood in any of
these quotes where it mentions a date:
and even for a fair dating of one of the oldest Chinese records of an
eclipse (1050 BC). Stephenson's "Historical Eclipses" is p.t. one of the
best publications in this field, but still it must be borne in mind that the
Senmut star map is 500-800 years further back in time.
--Looks like I have no problem with the Chinese records as of yet either.
Furthermore, one of the oldest known Egyptian presentations of a planetary
position, places Jupiter close to the decan (celestial sector of 10-degrees)
of Sirius. This dates back some 4200 years, and is recorded on a fragment of
a starclock-diagram depicted inside a coffin-lid (on Heny's coffin) - one of
the traditional methods of recording.
A thousand years before the time of Senmut, the astronomer-priests were
developing such skills by constant observation of the firmament, which
necessitated the keeping of accurate records, especially with regard to
calculating celestial positions and cyclic phenomena.
The observation that the Senmut-map presents a concrete celestial conjunction 1534 BC seems to be supported by the subsequent maps in the
following centuries demonstrating that these conditions are reflected here,
Concerning the above mentioned tms n hntt on the Senmut star map - cf. the
treatise's paragraph 3 - the following note may be added: The early
existence of several variants of this expression is well known, e.g. tms n
hnt and tms n hnty etc., several of which go back to the star clock diagrams
belonging to the early coffin groups (ca. 2,200 BC). However, the precise
combination in our case, tms n hntt , seems to be found on the Senmut star
map for the first time.
Given that there is no safe way of extrapolating so far back in time, it
would of course be risky to give the exact hour of an eclipse 3,500 years
ago, as has been the case in the paper discussed. (It was intended to serve
as an additional illustration of how precise the information of the Senmut
map might be). As stated above, it is of no significance for the basic
dating of this star map. In any case, the general positions in the sky for
the Sun, Moon, and all the planets are correct and unambiguous.
--Nothing in this paper challenges the date of the flood, but actually, as I
said earlier, it was an interesting read and was informative, not to mention
appealing to the dating of the Flood. [/quote]
y'know what - I was wrong… I was misinformed. Sorry.
quote (from your words):
"I have, and I do not understand how this could support the flood model…"
--See my quote on this in this post. If you have any comments or think that
there is anything that exists in the record you can challenge it. It is a
perfect supportation of the Flood model.
quote (from your words):
"absolutely. But when you have two theories side-by-side, the one that
explains the facts the most consistently using the least amount of unnatural
phenomena and speculation wins the battle for the hearts of the scientist."
I am very interested
in your discovery of the Jupiter and Saturn conjunction compared to Sirius of
the Egyptian Senmut's star map of 1534 B.C. In the same year also a
Jupiter-Saturn conjunction took place. I see no connection between the Egyptian
and the Babylonian ancient astronomy (not before circa 400 B.C.), they worked
with two different reference systems. I do not know the Egyptian hieroglyphs,
but I would like to find the Egyptian interpretation or "symbolic idea" of the
two conjunctions mentioned.
I wish you a continued
success with your research work.
Gustav Teres SJ, Bibel Exegetician lic.art., and Astronomer
Oslo, Norway - & - Vatican Observatory, Castel Gandolfo - (22.Oct.2001)
History of Astronomy Discussion Group,
internet, 20-21 January 2002 - debate:
I would not be surprised if ...
"... I would not be
surprised if the author has indeed misread passages of the Senmut ceiling ...".
"... it becomes evident
that the redating of the Senmut ceiling star map is only one episode in a larger
project of redating the whole chronology of the New Kingdom Period of Egypt that
the author plans to publish in a 5-volume study on the life and times of Moses.
... As the author believes that the Pharaoh's daughter who raised Moses was the
future Queen Hatshepsut, then all historical dates linked to Hatshepsut and
other 18th Dynasty rulers would have to be shifted backwards in time to make
them correspond with his Moses chronology ...".
Robert H. van Gent, DrSn., - Faculty of Physics and Astronomy,
Utrecht University, - History of Astronomy Discussion Group, -
http://wvnvm.wvnet.edu/htbin/listarch?hastro-l&a:scmcc.archives - Message
No.165 & No.179 - (20-21 January 2002)
NOTE (web ed.): See, below, Ove von Spaeth's
commments to Conman and van Gelder.
History of Astronomy Discussion Group,
internet, 21 January 2002 - debate:
No support to historical existence of Moses
"... It seems that
Ove von Spaeth found a star alignment he liked to fit his Moses theory and
simply superimposed it on Senmut's ceiling. ...It seems to have been assumed
that all these ceilings are meant to be photographic representations of the
sky, possibly stylized, possibly erroneous, but essentially "astronomical"
charts. I find this assumption to be inconsistent with the ancient Egyptian
"... What you choose to
believe as a matter of faith is one thing, but there is absolutely no
evidence to support the historical existence of Moses. There have been
dozens of candidates suggested ranging over a period of time of several
hundred years. There is no archaeological evidence to support the Biblical
story of Exodus ...".
Joanne Conman, Maine, - History of Astronomy Discussion Group, -
http://wvnvm.wvnet.edu/htbin/listarch?hastro-l&a:scmcc.archives - Message
No.183 & No.187 - (21 January 2002)
:: OvS's Comments. - Debate and criticism are
indispensable to science and research. Acknowledgements from esteemed
scientists, scholars, and other experts have been productive in the actual
case, indeed. However, the invaluable asset of criticism can be misdirected
by incorrect quotations from the paper under discussion, and even by
"references" to alleged statements, which were never made in the paper. But
once entered into the debate, such tend to remain in circulation.
contributions, above - from Conman and van Gent - are from an international
Newsgroup for the History of Astronomy and joining the discussions on the
internet among researchers, scholars, and scientists concerning Ove von
Spaeth's scientific treatise on dating the world's oldest star map. About 25
different letters relating this matter were distributed world wide to all
members of the group during the first months of 2002. - Unfortunately,
solely based on accounts and comments the two contributors' remarks also
contain serious misunderstandings. Just stating their opinions: they
'think', and 'suppose', and 'assume' - but show no concrete facts and data.
Besides from appearing
not to be too well informed or experienced on the special points in this
special case, they pronounce their verdict in absentia having
never proven nor documented any error in the paper in question - and
yet their newsgroup-talk later has been incompetently referred to as if the
opinions here were a real "source". In their own letters on the net Conman and van Gent
admit neglecting to consult the primary source, i.e. they had never read the
Xerox copies of the
treatise can be requested from library article-bases: The reference-No. is
ISSN 0008-8994, "Centaurus International Magazine of the History of
Mathematics, Science, and Technology", Vol. 42;3, 2000, pp. 159-179. - Or
the treatise may be downloaded at the web page:
Senmut Star Map Decoded .
Furthermore, some of the
sceptics (not quoted here) wish to present a somewhat different result
(concerning a solar eclipse) based on calculations from certain formulae -
e.g. in "The Nautical Almanac", or PC astronomy-programmes - but without
knowing the existence of alternative formulae: differences of these formulae
are due to hitherto unsolved problems concerning the Delta-T factors.
Besides, in the treatise
the eclipse is of no significance as regards the basic dating of this star
map. - (A further criticism cites the impossibility of a "total solar
eclipse", in spite of the fact that the treatise does not mention a total
Some of the critics are
concerned with alleged Egyptology problems which are non-existent - and they
ignore that the treatise's star map contains identifications which
previously have been recognized, especially in Neugebauer & Parker's
authoritative work "Egyptian Astronomical Texts, I-III".
A problem appear to occur
because some of the critics openly substitute their own opinions and
considerations for concrete facts and data. - Furthermore, they forget that
the treatise on Senmut's Star Map is published in the esteemed "Centaurus
International Magazine of the History of Mathematics, Science, and
Technology". Prior to publication in this journal, as required, the treatise
has been peer-reviewed by experts. - The same rules and principles apply to
"Aristoriton Journal of History, Archaeology and ArtHistory", which
published parts of the treatise. Here too, it was peer-reviewed by
specialists in the relevant fields and/or topics and, further, by the
In addition, authorities
on the history of astronomy and Egyptology: - Professor Owen Gingerich,
Harvard-Smithsonian Institute, - Dr. Sir Patrick Moore,
astronomer, BBC Science Editor, - and Professor Dr. Erik Hornung,
Basel Universität, - all with a special knowledge and long-term interest
concerning the Senmut star map, have acknowledged - independently and
voluntarily - the star map dating project and the value of what it suggests.
And no sceptics have proved any calculation wrong concerning the general
positions in the sky for the Sun, Moon, and the planets - they are all
correct and unambiguous.
Concerning Russian discussion about the
Senmut star map, 9 January, 2003 - comment:
Dispersion margin and interesting
A treatise by Ove von Spaeth - documenting
an exact dating of the oldest Egyptian star chart - and by BBC's
Science editor, the British astronomer Dr Sir Patrick Moore, being
described as a "major
advance". The treatise was
published in the "Centaurus International Magazine of the History of
Mathematics, Science and Technology" (Vol. 42:3, July-August 2000, pp.
159-179). In addition, it is - in an easy to read form - separately presented
(by permission) as an Appendix in Ove von Spaeth's work, in the Volume 2: "The Enigmatic Son
of Pharaoh's Daughter".
The finding in question has been
considered, by some experts, as controversial - and very often from those sides
it have not been discussed in a proper scientific manner.
concerning these attitudes are now
being commented upon by Mathematician and Philosopher Jurij Moskvitin:
- This is for your information. The so far positive, interested
statements at Russian websites regarding your thesis on the astronomic
dating of Senmut's star chart have now received an unusual comment. At that
other Russian website the following is stated - by these words, according to my hasty translation of Dimitri Guschev's original
- by Dimitrij Guschev: ( http://hbar.phys.msu.su/gorm/wwwboard/messages47/17702.html ) - 2 October
2002: "... Датировка старейшей египетской звездной карты ..." etc., - i.e. "...it (Ove
von Spaeth's paper) was also examined in the light of the history of astronomy.
The author, like Fomenko, attacking the problem by having only a faint
understanding of the symbolism in the Egyptian astronomy, as well as the
author entertains his own particular ideas about "correct chronology". Besides,
it shows too that the author lies concerning the astronomical calculations of
the planets. As regards what may be said of the predictions of 3500 years old eclipses -
almost anything may be said. Errors in the exact determination of some certain
DT for that time would amount to some two-three hours, which does not permit to
determine whether the eclipse at the given region was a full one. The nearest more or less successful determination of an eclipse which we may
take for granted took place 500 years later. And so it turns out that the
suggested eclipses have not been visible in Egypt - in spite of the most clever
attempts of narrowing the fluctuations of DT. (A correction of 12 hours would be
There is nothing to be done about the fact that Dimitri Guschev has not taken
into consideration the reservations you yourself point out regarding the
accuracy of the astronomic calculations. And that he is missing a point somehow.
Otherwise the precise reservations would have provided sufficient grounds for
wringing the neck of that Guschev case (Guschev in Russian means "Mr Goose").
The reason why he takes
such a pessimistic approach is incomprehensible, but perhaps it is because you
did not with sufficient deference contact him as being the great expert that he -
according to his text about Egyptian astronomic symbolism - believes himself to be.
When considering the existence of an original star chart that indicates the
occurrence of a solar eclipse 3500 years ago, one should be allowed to focus
one's attention on the closest - chronologically and geographically - solar
eclipse that actually occurred. Why else would the indication of a solar eclipse
be inserted into a star chart?
The thesis on Senmut's
star chart has raised an interesting discussion. In terms of antedating or
'dating-back' - since childhood we've been believing in the infallibility of astronomic
professionals, and then along comes Ove von Spaeth who reminds us of there is an enormous dispersion margin over a period of just 3500 years.
You have engendered quite a row among astronomers.
If nothing else, your
work will lead to some interesting clarifications - which is more than most
books have managed to achieve.
Jurij Moskvitin, Philosopher, Mathematician, Writer, - c/o Gomide,
Rua Voluntarios da Patria 166, apt.1302, 22270-010 Rio de Janeiro, Botafogo,
Brazil - (9.jan.2003)
distribution-moraff.com - 8 March 2002 -
They like to show off
I hope my link to the
Astro-Discussion - did you good. Don't worry about those people -
they like to show off more than we do - and they know far less <smile>. They
will glue you to arguments back and forth - that will waste your time and later
you will say "What a waste of my time when I could have worked on my books!"
As with all significant
books, your book is bound to have a few errors - publish it anyway.
Historical Astronomy Division of The American
Astronomical Society - February 2001:
American Astronomical Society
Historical Astronomy Division of the American Astronomical Society. Topics
relating to the historical nature of astronomy - History is broadly interpreted
to include traditional history of astronomy, archaeoastronomy, and the
application of historical records to modern astrophysical problems.
- ...Recent publications
relating to the history of astronomy, bibliographies prepared by Ruth S. Freitag
of the Library of Congress, February 2001: - Articles, Including Essays in
Books and Papers in Proceedings: Spaeth, Ove von. Dating the oldest
Egyptian star map. Centaurus, v. 42, no. 3, 2000: 159-179. illus.
Historical Astronomy Division of the American Astronomical Society,
Washington DC - & Louisiana State University, Department
of Physics and Astronomy, - http://www.aas.org/~had/biblio.html
Russian web site: - (188.) /!\ gorm:
Датировка египетского гороскопа не по Фоменко - 09 Февраля
В свежем номере журнала по истории науки Centaurus 2000, vol. 42, pp.
159-179. Опубликована статья Ove von Spaeth, "Dating the Oldest Egyptian Star
"The earliest known maps
in Egypt are found as a main part of the decor in a tomb (No. TT 353) at Thebes
on the West bank of the Nile. The tomb was constructed during the first half of
the Egyptian 18 dynasty, probably about 1490 BC, and it belonged to Queen
Hatshepsut's vizier and calendar registrar Senmut (or Senenmut).
The Senmut maps, Fig.1,
are almost 4 meters long. They are found on the southern and nothern panels of
the ceiling, which is shaped as the inner part of a low-pitched roof of the
burial chamber hewed out of the subterranean rock.
The map on the southern
panel proves to reflect a specific conjunction of planets around the longitude
of Sirius. This particular configuration of planets actually occured in the sky
about May 1534 BC. These characteristics of the maps have not been recognized
before. Egyptologists identified the planets on the maps long ago, but the
actual occurence of their configuration in the sky can now be verified through
modern astronomical calculation."
P.S. Помнится Дист обещал
закрыть свой сайт если я найду древнее решение дендерского зодиака лучшее
Фоменковского 18 века - я такое решение быстро нашел. Ждемс.
http://hbar.phys.msu.su/gorm/wwwboard/voprchr/981745387.htm - (09
Февраля 2001) (= 09 February 2001)
Oriental Institute, University of Chicago,
Research Archives - September 2000:
Oriental Institute Chicago
Oriental Institute, University of Chicago. The text and images in the Oriental
Institute World-Wide Web database are for the personal, not-for-profit use of
students, scholars, and the public.
- ... The Research
Archives: Egyptology: Author: Spaeth, Ove von,: Title: Dating the
Oldest Egyptian Star Map. - In: Centaurus 42 (2000), pages 159-179. Description.
- Acquired - September 2000.
Oriental Institute, University of Chicago, Research Archives, -
www.oilib.uchicago.edu/oilibcat.html & www.oi.uchicago.edu/OI/DEPT/
Thunderbolts Forum - 5 February 2011 -
ideas for our attention:
Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas
compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be
permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they
are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what
ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?
Moderators: arc-us, MGmirkin World-axis and Ancient Sky
(Excerpts of the Ove von
Spaeth texts and findings:)
The World-axis stretches
from the Canopus Star via the Sirius Star up to Vega in the constellation Lyra,
the sky's three brightest stars and they appear on a perfect, straight line. To
compare with the Senmut map's axis - a cosmic factor thus resembling the obelisk
symbolism presented in the Egyptian creation myth.
This first, complete star
map installed in Senmut's secret tomb had set a fashion of which in principle
was copied during the following 1,500 years in Egypt. However, the special
motive is originally the most dominant with Senmut: the World-axis.
As this axis is
established by the three most brilliantly shining stars of the sky, i.e.,
Canopus, Sirius, and Lyra/Vega: This phenomenon should not be confused with the
axis of earth. Together these three stars show the straight line along the
shining Milky Way across the sky.
Although Senmut's star
map has the oldest picture of the World-axis known anywhere, it is called "a
mast" by the few Egyptologists who have noticed it. Maybe the only researcher
known to have recognized the World-axis on the Senmut star map was Ernst Zinner,
German astronomer, astronomy historian, and Manager of the Bamberg Observatory.
In his treatise, "Die Sternbilder der alten Ägypter" in the 'Isis' Science
Magazine (1933, Vol. 16, pp. 92-101), he mentions it directly as "the World-axis
on the star map" - few years after the finding of the tomb and thus the map.
Senmut's star map
constitutes also a celestial portrait, which is the world's oldest known
'horoscope' in the original understanding of this term, which was to "read the
sky" - especially in order to determine the time based on certain configurations
of stars in the horizon. A close analysis of the inscriptions of Senmut's star
map reveals that almost all planets are gathered around the Sirius Star and thus
the World-axis. This indicated a certain date. ... ...
(>>> Continue here:
I find your work on the Senmut star map most interesting, and will alert a
physicist/astronomer friend of mine to see it too. I very much appreciate the
offprint of your paper.
Do you have an English
publisher for your Moses research? If not, I may have some suggestions. -
Risorse Bibliche lingua e scrittura ebraica. - Site sobre Qumran e os
Manuscritos do Mar Morto. Mantido por Elio Jucci, Università degli Studi di
Pavia, Itália. - Elio Jucci : SETH - "Semitica et Theologica".
- Calendari. A proposito
di Calendari (questo mese) ... è noto a tutti quanto la questione del calendario
fosse importante nel mondo ebraico ... per tale motivo dedicherò almeno una
pagina a links connessi in qualche modo con questo tema. ... Calendari: [VII
-2003] - An Egyptian Star-map. By Ove von Spaeth, Independent Scholar, Denmark (
Studies of Occidental Constellations and Star
Names to the Classical Period, (October 2002 & 2003) - An
A controversial interpretation
An Annotated Bibliography of Studies of Occidental Constellations and Star Names
to the Classical Period. Compiled by Gary D. Thompson, Copyright 2001. - Section
Four (4): Geographical listing (2) - Egyptian, Jewish, Persian, Arabic: -
von Spaeth, Ove. (2000).
"Dating the Oldest Egyptian Star Map." (Centaurus, Volume 42, Pages 159-179).
[Note: A controversial interpretation of the Senmut star map. The Danish author,
who describes himself is an "independent scholar," seeks to accomplish
considerable chronological revision (as part of his re-intepretation of the
biblical figure of Moses). A number of critics on the Hastro-L (History of
Astronomy) discussion list (January, 2002) have shown his astronomical
interpretation of Senmut's star map to be seriously flawed.]
Collège de France, La Bibliothèque
d'Égyptologie, Paris, Nouvelles Acquisitions - 2001:
La Bibliothèque d'Égyptologie
Bibliothèque d'Égyptologie - possède un fonds spécialisé sur l'Égypte
pharaonique et l'Égypte chrétienne, sur la philologie, la linguistique et la
paléographie hiéroglyphiques, hiératiques, démotiques et coptes, sur
l'épigraphie, l'histoire et l'archéologie de l'Égypte et de la Nubie, et enfin
sur la représentation de l'Égypte pharaonique depuis la fin du paganisme jusqu'à
- ... Nouvelles
acquisitions de la bibliothèque d'Égyptologi 2001: Monographies, tires a part,
articles: Ègyptologie BROCH SPA - Spaeth, Ove von, - Dating the
oldest egyptian star map / by Ove von Spaeth, Copenhagen, Munksgaard, 2000
 p : fig.  tabl., Extr. de Centaurus ISSN 0008-8984.
La Bibliothèque d'Égyptologie, Collège de France, Cabinet
d'Égyptologie, Paris, - www.egyptologues.net/pdf/bibliotheque/
Newsgroup: In the Hall of Maat, 17 May 2004
Velcome to: In the Hall of Maat, ... Reply To This Message - Re: So who are your
"favorite" Pseudohistorians? ... /Annie Vedelsby, Date: May-17-04, 01:34 : Here
pseudoscience is not so common - yet - but I would name Velikovsky, Osman, and a
danish gentleman, Ove von Spaeth, who till now has written 4 books in which he
is "proving" that Senmut = Moses. I believe that Joanne Conman has seen his
paper about Senmut's astronomical ceiling. Greetings Annie Vedelsby. - Reply To
This Message - etc. ...
Annie Vedelsby, - Newsgroup: In the Hall of Maat, -
www.thehallofmaat.com/maat/read.php?f=1&i=199585&t=199411 - (17.May2004,
Supplying Information, - by Ove von Spaeth: - The
following information is published in order to dispel a certain extreme
superficiality, and this may help Annie Vedelsby and especially many other
readers in similar situations. Unfortunately, the phenomenon is not
uncommon in the academic circles.
In addition - I would
like to thank Vedelsby for giving me this opportunity to dismiss the hearsay
in question that, for some years, is irresponsibly distributed
concerning my research.
Presenting Moses as a
true historical person, was always the main feature of my series of books.
However, this aim does not seem to fit in with Vedelsby's beliefs. Among
Vedelsby's assumptions and suppositions, she tries to use Joanne Conman as a
witness, - whereby Vedelsby "... believes ..." that "... Conman has seen his
(OvS's) paper about Senmut's astronomical ceiling ...".
If any of Vedelsby's
beliefs had contained any correct information at all, then fate has not been
good to several scientific institutions, e.g. the Jewish National &
University Library, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem would then have been
lacking this kind
of "advice" before they started buying even the first copy of my books.
Furthermore, similar "problem" hits The Danish Ministry of Foreign Affairs at
its Development Aid Division, Danida, who recommends my books so that the
education of the staff can be supplied with information on ancient Egyptian
culture and history.
Vedelsby asserts that I
have "... written 4 books 'proving' Senmut = Moses ...". False! In my series
of books, five volumes (ultimately) in all, only one volume deals with Senmut
- containing new informative finds and discoveries indicating certain
historical connections to Moses. Senmut is not mentioned elsewhere, at all.
Moreover, I do never in any of my books use the expression "proves", because
the books' contents are presented in the only way this material can be useful:
in a proper scientific manner.
Is Vedelsby familiar with
the tradition of research applied to basic scientific principles? As a
taxidermist at Zoological Museum at the University of Copenhagen, and a
member of the Danish Society of Egyptology, she should know. Thus, are
Vedelsby's assertions an illusion or deliberate desinformation?
In terms of the last
mentioned and according to examples of Vedelsby's lack of knowledge
concerning my books, as she herself has just revealed, she can neither have
actually read the books, nor can she have seen a message of Joanne Conman
admitting never having read my paper concerning the dating of the Senmut
astronomical ceiling (cf. messages of Conman for newsgroup Hastro-L,
Jan.2002 - where, furthermore, Conman in advance ignores all facts and data
presented in my paper). But, in spite of all this, Vedelsby knows 'for
sure' that the author of the books is a "pseudo-historian", and she even
knows this beforehand. In any case, this line of action or attitude has
absolutely nothing to do with science.
Ove von Spaeth, Zenith I.C. Project, - (31.May,2004).
:: Still, I am grateful that Vedelsby gave me this extra
opportunity to contribute with more information:
NOTE I: - My favourite "pseudo-scientists" are Tycho Brahe, Darwin, Albert
Einstein, and Schliemann - none of whom originally had a thorough academic
scientific training or support, but never the less they invented new, ground-breaking
scientific methods and - through by their pioneering scientific research -
made discoveries and inventions decisive to history and mankind. Vedelsby
chose one of her "...favourite pseudo-historians..." to be Ove von Spaeth,
whose work she hasn't studied seriously or understood - indeed, a
Concerning my treatise on Senmut's Star Map, it has been published in
the esteemed "Centaurus International Magazine of the History of
Mathematics, Science, and Technology".
Without any of that kind of commentaries, the Ove von Spaeth-paper on
the Senmut star map has been received, accepted, and now being accessible
worldwide at central libraries of scientific institutions, e.g. in
Washington DC, Chicago, Paris, Madrid, Oxford, Cambridge, The Vatican,
Cracow, Moscow, Beijing, and Tokyo, - and in several other scientific
institutions of history, astronomy, and Egyptology, e.g. in Germany, Belgium,
South Africa and Egypt.
Concerning my research on Moses, my books have been
supported by a great number of scientists and experts. To mention a few
e.g.: Jes P. Asmussen, Ph.D. (Theology), Professor, formerly at the Carsten
Niebuhr Department of Near Eastern Studies, University of Copenhagen; - and
Kristian Peder Moesgaard, D.Sc., Professor, History of Science Department,
Aarhus University, - Director of the Steno Museum, Denmark's National Museum
for the History of Science, Aarhus.
According to consequences by Vedelsby's expressed beliefs those many experts
and institutions must all be wrong. But she knows what is "pseudo".
Ove von Spaeth
NOTE II: - Until recently, it had been common practice for scientists
- for almost a hundred years - to send/deliver their articles on demand as a
copy or off print to other scientists. To do so, many used pre-printed
postcards with their address and the words "Dear Colleague, Please send me
your article/paper entitled ... etc.". Now, the Internet makes it even
easier to acquire an article. The afore-mentioned Joanne Conman has referred
to my web site. Although my e-mail-address is well-presented, she has never
asked for a copy of my paper, but stated her judgement against my treatise
to her Hastro-L-group in January 2001, still - by her own words: - without
having read it.
Conman turned to a fellow newsgroup-member, astronomer van Gent, for
support. He hadn't read my paper either, nor had he requested it from me or
a library. But this did not stop him from stating, even in a foreign field -
and totally outside my paper's content - that a Moses chronology in my books
must be feared as being wrong in some way, of course. What a show-off in
An Australian web site, by Gary D. Thompson, presenting a very useful
compilation of literature on ancient astronomy, has placed my paper in
this collection together with a strange assertion based on Conman & van
Gent's inadequate comments as if these were a result of a serious
scientific analysis. - And in continuing the discussions concerning the
OvS-paper, now on the Russian Internet, a man named Dimitrij Gusjev, who
did not study the paper either, but, instead, he quotes Conman's
unfounded opinions as if they were "pure facts". And now, Vedelsby
willingly makes a similar mistake.
My early correspondence with Dr.
Clyde W. Tombaugh - a former farm-hand who became a self-taught astronomer
and a great expert, and discovered the planet Pluto and more than 1400
asteroids, objects, comets, etc. - is now recorded (side by side, literally,
with Carl Sagan's matters) in "Clyde W. Tombaugh Papers" (in New Mexico
State University's possession and also to be seen on the Internet). Poor
Tombaugh, he did not know that he was exchanging thoughts with a "pseudo". -
And regarding to the great Professor in astronomy, the late Carl Sagan,
known for his early research (governmental supported) on the possibility
of extraterrestrial life - in this avant-garde position he was
criticized for performing "pseudo-science". Sagan is often quoted for the
statement: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". Concerning
Conman's and Vedelsby's funny assertions, what kind of evidence have they
And why should my paper be considered wrong by a judgement not based
on any testing or argumentation concerning the paper's weighty data? Only
because Conman says so. Joanne Conman is known as a "competent amateur
Egyptologist" (http://members.optusnet.com.au) and may be a good scholar -
but in this case, she does not seem to act like one. Debate and criticism
are indispensable to science and research, and Conman's criticism would be
most welcome and valuable, especially if it related to what had actually
Thus, Conman has expressed her considerations only, with no evidence,
and has not proven anything at all, and - from bad to worse - her
proclamation is without her personal inspection of the source in question!
She is entitled to do so, but then she should by honesty inform her learned
forum that this opinion of hers is not genuine scientifically based. - The
very problem appears to occur with surprising frequency in the academic
world, because some of the critics openly substitute their own opinions and
considerations for concrete facts and data. Again, this outcome is not
scientific at all. Ove von Spaeth
Mail, 27 April 2006 -
Read with greatest interest
"I have purchased your
paper, 'Dating the Oldest Egyptian Star Map',
from Centaurus Magazine - via Blackwell. We are preparing a special exhibition
about astronomy. I am the Acting Head of the Department of Astronomy at The Kroppedal Museum (formerly
The Ole Roemer
Museum). The main subject of this department is in general the history of Danish
astronomy (Tycho Brahe, Ole Roemer, etc.), however, we are also engaged in
ancient natural science and cosmology. With greatest interest I
have read your paper on the dating of the Star
Map from the tomb of Senmut."
The Welcome Library for the History -,
London, October 2000 - current work:
The Welcome Library, for the History -
Current work, October 2000: Science, Record 22 of 360.
Dating the oldest
Egyptian star map / by Ove von Spaeth. - p. 159-179 : ill. - In: Centaurus. 42,
no. 3 (2000). (OCoLC)2445765. - Includes bibliographic references. - Egypt. -
Ancient. - Astronomy / history. - Maps.
The Welcome Library for the History and Understanding the Medicine,
London, - library.wellcome.ac.uk/resources/cw/archive/oct00-synopsis.rtf
Star map-Egypt site among the first of top results
The Oldest Egyptian Star Map - the Senmut map Dating information decoded. The
following is a presentation of newly discovered data of special importance to
Egyptology, ancient history, and astronomy - and, typically, studies of
chronology - as well as related culture and science of Egypt's 18th dynasty and
ancient Near East.
It has been published in
Ove von Spaeth's treatise on "Dating the Oldest Egyptian Star Map". The data
concerned have been revealed by a thorough examination of one of the most unique
Egyptian celestial decoration...
Star map - Egypt -
Spaeth: Millions of related items: - Ancient Egypt Map Resources: - Top 500
Related Search Terms: - "Ancient Egypt Map": - returned 12 top results of
which this is No. 6: STAR MAP * EGYPT * SPAETH (
Crystalinks.com, Metaphysical and Science
Website, Ancient Star Maps, 5 March 2001 - info:
Crystalinks: New Discovery in Ancient Egyptian Star
Ancient Star Charts. - The word "star" comes from the Greek term meaning
heavenly body; - Bronze Age 'star chart' found March 2nd ; - Lascaux, France,
17,000 years ago: in star pictures of the Pleiades; - Prehistoric Star Maps
Identified In France And Spain; - New Discovery
in Ancient Egyptian Star Map (
Also, - Star of David - Solomon's Seal ; - Ancient Star Maps; - Ice Age Star Map
Discovered BBC - August 2000; - Zodiac - The ancients mapped the stars; - Aboriginal (Native American) Star Knowledge; - Star Charts and Moon Stations; -
Sacred Stars and Treasure Maps 5 Pointed Stars.
Ellie Crystal, - Metaphysical and Science Website, Created and
Designed by Ellie Crystal. Copyright 1995-2001, -
- Ancient Star Maps - (5.Mar.2001)
Newsmail, Swedano Journal, 5 February 2003
- Reader's Information:
Moses' Stars in Moscow, Arabia, and Jerusalem
What did the ancient Egyptians really know about the world of stars? Researchers
have discussed this for more than 100 years, but they have not always recognized
an impressive knowledge be the ancient peoples.
Now, Ove von Spaeth, an
independent historian in Denmark, has proved that a special dating key with
exact astronomical information has been built into the oldest known star map of
the world. It is placed in the Luxor tomb of Senmut, the Egyptian grand vizier
ca. 1500 BC
In 2000 Ove von Spaeth's pioneering research resulting in a treatise about the
map was accepted by the esteemed international science journal, the "Centaurus
Magazine of The History of Mathematics, Science, and Technology".
The discovery and the
dating are supporting Ove von Spaeth's new orienting research of the mystery and
drama of the historical Moses.
This appears in
particular from von Spaeth's book, "The Enigmatic Son of Pharaoh's Daughter",
which also contains the entire treatise as a supplementary appendix. The book is the
volume two of his series of books about the historical Moses.
Ove von Spaeth's
five-volume work, "Assassinating Moses" (C.A. Reitzel Publishers, Copenhagen) is
considered so impartial that the National and University Library of Israel in
Jerusalem has started to buy it. Simultaneously Arab search engines have
accepted and described in details the web-site of the book series,
Also, Zdhems Dist, a
Russian researcher, has made a Russian homepage entirely about Ove von Spaeth's
treatise on the star map.
Many debates about Ove
von Spaeth's discoveries - internationally, on the Net, and in other media -
prove lack of knowledge to the original treatise. Now, however, his whole
decoding of this exciting star map can be downloaded free of charge in English
and in Danish from the web-site of Ove von Spaeth's book-series on Moses, i.e.
(With permission as per January 5, 2003, from Hans Baron Anckarstjerna,
Astrocomment, 11 Oktober 2004 - Info:
Der astronomischen Angaben
"... Zum schluss
noch soviel: Der dänische Ove von Spaeth hat anhand der astronomischen
Angaben des Lukasevangeliums festgestellt; - "unsere Zeitrechnung" - das
haben wir auch immer gesagt, in der DDR. ...
Das sei aber nur eine
Zeitdimension, die 40 Jahre zu interpretieren ...". Schöne Grüsse aus
Jeff Watts, (
- Fri, May 12 2006 2:33 am - (12.May,2006)
Imago Mundi: The International Journal for
the History of Cartography, Vol. 53, 2001 - & - Vol. 55, 2003
British Library: History of Cartography. - The International Journal for
the History of Cartography. Resources for Librarians and Publishers. Journal
of record as well as scholarship (includes book reviews, bibliography,
chronicles). - Publisher Routledge, part of Taylor & Francis Group. -
British Library, 96 Euston Road, London NW1 2OB
Imago Mundi Bibliography, JSTOR Collection: Arts & Sciences Complement ...
Spaeth, Ove von: - Dating the oldest Egyptian star map / Ove von Spaeth.
- 01:53(323) ... Issue: Volume 53, 2001, P. 212.
Imago Mundi Bibliography, File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - 2003 Imago Mundi Ltd
ISSN 0308-5694 print/1479-7801 online. DOI: 10.1080/0308569032000097594 ...
Leitz, Christian: - In response to article of O. von Spaeth on the
star map (TT 353). ... Issue: Volume 55, Number 1 / 8 October 2003, P. 176.
Imago Mundi: The International Journal for the History of Cartography. - The
only English-language scholarly periodical devoted exclusively to the
history of pre-modern maps, mapping, and map-related ideas from anywhere in
the world. Founded in Berlin in 1935 by Russian émigré Leo Bagrow as an
annual publication. British Library, London NW1 2OB, -
http://links.jstor.org/journals/03085694.html - & -
Publ. Routledge, taylorandfrancis.metapress.com/index/TJ66DWGM26KQV9VE.pdf)
"Danish research projects published
after1950", astrology museum.dk, summer 2003 - research and
Star Knowledge in Ancient Egypt
Bibliography on astrological research projects published in Denmark in the
second half of 20th century. Research projects are classified as: basic
research, practical research, and development work. Included are also pilot
investigations and more comprehensive works. Articles: Spaeth, Ove von,
"Star Knowledge in Ancient Egypt" in the "Stjernerne" (Magazine) 9/2002, pages
20-25 (& second part: the "Stars" 11/2003, pages 10-13)
Classification - only
standard of subjects so far available for astrology is UDC, the Universal
Decimal Classification system used in practically all research libraries. Or the
similar like the early Dewey Decimal Classification - DDC - or Library of
Congress Classification - LCC - or the simplified version, Decimal
Classification System DK used at public libraries, school libraries, etc. By all
these systems, Astrology is classified in group 1, PHILOSOPHY. A Factual
Order has been presented as a suggestion named AMFORA classification.
Claus Houlberg, Astr. Cand.Arch., Eksam. Psykoterp.: "Danish
Research Projects After 1950", Astrology Museum, Research and Archives -
- - - - - :: NOTE (web ed.): - The text in the
above articles about "Star Knowledge in Ancient Egypt" includes a number of
extracts from OvS's treatise, "Dating the Oldest Egyptian Star Map",
Centaurus, Volume 42, July-August 2000, pages 159-179. - Some essential
parts of Ove von Spaeth's discovery he had originally published in
"Stjernerne", August 1985 (29th year, No 11, pp. 462-467).
A Danish version of the
treatise was published as an appendix to OvS's book, "The Enigmatic Son
of Pharaoh's Daughter", 2000, pp. 176-190 (C.A. Reitzel Publishers). -
The original treatise in English (as well as a Danish version) can be
downloaded from: www.moses-egypt.net - at its STAR MAP sites wich are added
extended contents and are being open to further debate on a special
The complete article,
"Star Knowledge in Ancient Egypt" by Ove von Spaeth was published in the
Swedano Journal, and can be downloaded by deep links:
Clyde W. Tombaugh Papers, correspondence, New
Mexico State University, register (4 April 2004) - Manuscript
Tombaugh correspondence, Department of Astronomy
Clyde W. Tombaugh Papers: A register of Manuscript Collection - Ms 0407 - in the
New Mexico State University Library Archives and Special Collections Department
(Rio Grande Historical Collections, MSC 3475, P.O. Box 30006, Las Cruces, New
Mexico, NM 88003, USA).
- Files from Tombaugh's
tenure at New Mexico State University, Department of Astronomy: (on p. 55 ff:)
professional correspondence, No. 90:14 Ove von Spaeth, Ch., 1975 & 1987.
OPT - Astronomy..., 26 February 2004 -
Of great importance to ancient Egyptian chronology
STAR-MAP: New orientating discoveries in the world's oldest star map in a
3500 years old Egyptian tomb - presented through historian Ove von Spaeth's
research - revealing informative and precise astronomical data of great
importance to ancient Egyptian chronology. (
He was King David's son, and built the temple where the western wall is that Jews
pray at today. The muslem dome of the rock sits on top of Solomon's Temple
ruins, which sits on top of David's threshing floor...
... At last we would like to state that the above information together with the
information found in our file on Zimri Lim and Hammurabi and its testimony to
the 'Benjaminites' and 'Dawidum' with respect to Saul, David and Solomon becomes
an affirmative reality to the historicity of these kings. Today's mainstream
historians, once having embarked upon an erroneous chronological path supported
by now thousands of research papers of people who have no or little knowledge of
the chronology here presented, have abandoned good historical methods.
The above mentioned
papers, as well as many other details presented at this website (i.e. the
'Peleset/Peleset' issue) provide positive evidence for the history of the people
presented in the Hebrew Scriptures, and ...
Cf.: "An Egyptian Star-map", - by
Ove von Spaeth, Independent Scholar, Denmark:
"... The astronomical
knowledge of the ancient Egyptians turns out to be surprisingly broader than
previously imagined. According to a new analysis, the world's oldest star-map
seems to contain information of an actual celestial event of its time. This
recent discovery uncovers the earliest exact scientific description of an
otherwise rare but not unknown celestial phenomenon.
This 3,500 year old
star-map which decorates one of the ceilings in the tomb of the great Senmut (or
Senenmut) near Luxor (Thebes), apparently demonstrates a previously unknown
aspect of the astronomical situation in Egypt around 1,500 BC. This revelation
is the result of investigations, the full report of which was published in the
International Journal of the History of Science Centaurus (Ove von Spaeth,
"Dating the Oldest Egyptian Star Map," vol. 42:3 (2000) : 159-179).
Drawing of the northern panel: - The map's configurations, which previously have
been considered mostly as mythological displays, are now disclosed to be an
accurate depiction of a rare gathering of planets in well-defined celestial
positions. The information contained in the map refers to a specific point in
time. The re-evaluation of this and subsequent maps gives birth to new
perspectives: by introducing these new reference points in time, the appropriate
chronology for the epoch in question, which otherwise has been much disputed,
can now be dated with considerably greater precision than heretofore possible.
The well-known Egyptian
star map in question was worked out by Senmut, who was the vizier to queen
Hatshepsut and also the calendar registrar of Egypt, during the 18th dynasty
(16th c. BCE). The recently decoded material can be objectively proven, based on
modern astronomical calculations, to depict important astronomical
circumstances. It has now become clear that the map of Senmut neither depicts an
arbitrary gathering of planets in the sky nor is it a copy of a pattern
eventually made by Senmut's predecessors.
Since this stellar-map
describes a planetary conjunction (i.e. a close encounter of the planets) where
a unique pattern of the positions of the planets are concentrated within a
defined sector of the sky, it therefore contains information unmistakably
related to a fixed point in time, which it has been possible to calculate as May
1534 BCE. According to the analysis, this dating is additionally supported by
the map's record of a simultaneous solar eclipse. Modern astronomical methods
confirm this interpretation with great precision: accordingly, the map of Senmut
must be acknowledged as one of history's oldest recorded scientific
Egyptian star-maps seem to confirm this discovery. Created under the reign of
several pharaohs, during 300 years or more after the first map, they exhibit
Senmut's principle of depicting a planetary conjunction. This seems to be a now
forgotten tradition since these younger star-maps occur only in the reign of
those pharaohs, such as Ramses II, where actual conjunctions of the relevant
type appeared in the Egyptian sky.
The study concludes as
follows: The Senmut map depicts an exceptional event in the sky. This seems to
have produced a prototype for all later pictures of similar celestial events -
but with one exception: In the first depiction, in the time of Senmut, Mars is
retrograde in the west when the other planets assemble around Sirius in the
east. - So far has been demonstrated:
1. The Senmut maps
contain a cosmological and astro-mythological expression not only as decoration
- as hitherto assumed - but also as a picture of a particular and unique
situation in the sky.
configuration of the sky can be exactly dated: 1534 BC. Furthermore one
particular day can be identified if the solar eclipse is included as indication.
In addition the star maps
may contribute to a better dating of their creator Senmut and also of the
contemporary Egyptian pharaohs - at least accurate to within a decade. ..."
(all text above: by historian Ove von Spaeth)
Manna is gold. Used to prolong the life. - Other causes of wonderment have been
the innumerable inscribed references to 'bread', along with the prominent
hieroglyph for 'light', found in the Shrine of the Kings. But the discovery
which caused the most bewilderment was the unearthing of something which was
identified as the enigmatic mfkzt to which the 'bread' symbolism appeared to be
related. Laying some inches deep beneath heavy flagstones in a storeroom was a
considerable supply of the finest pure white, unadulterated powder.
At the time, some
suggested that the powder could be a remnant of copper smelting but, as was
quickly pointed out, smelting does not produce white powder; it leaves a dense
black slag. Moreover, there is no supply of copper ore within miles of the
temple and the old smelting works are, in any event, apparent in the distant
valleys. Others guessed that the powder was ash from the burning of plants to
produce alkali, but there was no trace whatever of any plant residue.
For want of any other
explanation, it was determined that the white powder and the conical stones were
probably associated with some form of sacrificial rite, but again it was pointed
out that this was an Egyptian temple and animal sacrifice was not an Egyptian
practice. Moreover, despite sieving and winnowing, there were no remnants
whatever of bones or any other foreign matter to be found within the mfkzt,
which appeared for all the world like a hoard of sacred talcum-powder.
Some of the mysterious
powder was taken back to Britain for analysis and examination, but no results
were ever published. The rest was left open to the elements after 3000 years to
become a victim of the desert winds. What has become apparent, however, is that
this powder was seemingly identical to the ancient Mesopotamian fire-stone or
shem-an-na - the substance that was made into bread-cakes and used to feed the
Light-bodies of the Babylonian kings and the pharaohs of Egypt. This, of course,
explains the temple inscriptions denoting the importance of bread and light,
while the white powder (the shem-an-na) has been identified with the sacred
manna that Aaron placed in the Ark of the Covenant.
The book of Exodus
relates that the Master Craftsman who made the original shewbread for Moses in
Sinai was Bezaleel, but Bezaleel was not a baker, he was a noted goldsmith - the
very man who made the golden accoutrements for the Tabernacle and the Ark
itself. This conforms precisely with the function of the priestly Master
Craftsmen in Mesopotamia - the vulcans and metallurgists of Tubal-Cain who
manufactured the valuable shem-an-na from pure gold. As for the crucible, the
conical stones and the great array of tanks, tables and equipment which made the
Sinai temple appear more like a gigantic laboratory than a church, it emerges
that this is precisely what it was.
What Petrie had actually
found was the alchemical workshop of Akhenaten and of the numerous dynasties of
pharaohs before him - a temple laboratory where the furnace would have roared
and smoked in the production of the sacred fire-stone of the high-spin
shem-an-na. Quite suddenly, the words of Exodus begin to make sense as we read
them again with a wholly new insight:
And mount Sinai was
altogether on a smoke ... and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a
furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.
In Exodus we read that
Moses took the Golden Calf, which the Israelites had made, and burnt it in the
fire, and ground it to a powder'. This is precisely the process of a
shem-an-na furnace and it is evident that the Egyptian priests of the
goddess Hathor had been working their fire for countless generations before the
priests of Aten became involved in the time of Moses.
General Astronomy - >
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Knowing the date was very important to the ancient Egyptians because they had to
know when the Nile was due to flood and recede so they could plant their crops.
They based their calendars upon the rising of certain stars and observations of
the lunar cycle.
Stars and Moon Calendar
Representations of the
earliest calendars in history have been found on tomb ceilings and sarcophagus
lids from the 9th Dynasty onwards. Some of the surviving artwork inside the
tombs of the most important (or wealthy) Egyptians consists of stars and
celestial figures we'd recognise as constellations.
The Egyptian astronomers
(usually priests) divided the year into 12 months within three seasons:
• Akhet (Inundation: the flooding of the Nile upon which all life
in Egypt depended) I, II, III and IV
• Peret (Emergence of the Land) I, II, III and IV
• Shemu (Harvest) I, II, III and IV
The Tomb Ceiling Astronomical Map
A commoner called Senmut was an architect and teacher before female pharaoh
Hatshepsut's reign. Hatshepsut was married to her half-brother Tuthmosis II as
per Egyptian royal family custom, and they had a daughter, Princess Neferure.
Senmut was the princess' tutor and one of Hatshepsut's most trusted advisers.
After her husband's death Hatshepsut acted as regent for the next male heir
Tuthmosis III, her husband's child by a lesser wife, while plotting to take the
throne herself. Senmut supported Hatshepsut's quest to rule Egypt and he swiftly
rose to a position of high authority, earning himself the title 'High Steward of
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Ancient Egyptian Astronomy
Ancient Egyptian Astronomy: The ancient Egyptians did not have much
knowledge about astronomy. They had limited knowledge of geometry itself and
There are 2 members of
the Ancient Egyptian astronomy & medicine Department at Independent Researcher
on Academia.edu: Jacques Jost and Roz Park.
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ancient Egyptian astronomy in 120 years of literature - behind Ove von Spaeth's
treatise on the dating of the Senmut star map.
Prehistoric Egyptian Astronomy: A Chronology of Achievement.
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treatise on the dating of the Senmut star map.
Ancient Egypt question: Why did ancient Egyptian astronomers study the
stars? It was like religion. Why do Christians put so much on faith?
ancient Egyptian astronomy in 120 years of literature - behind Ove von Spaeth's
treatise on the dating of the Senmut star map.
Of Egyptian physics and chemistry we know nothing, and almost as little of
Ancient Egypt astronomy.
Ancient Egyptian Science,
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Ancient Egypt, Hermetism, Sacred Science, Theurgy, Esoteric Architecture,
- Sacred Astronomy, by Rosemary Clark.
I have read with interest information provided on your website concerning
the research of the Semut star-map and its probable relation to Moses. You
suggest the map describes a real astronomical observation in the reign of
As I am writing a book on
the chronology of Jesus Christ, my interest was drawn to what seems a
conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter in the very year that an eclipse of the
sun occurred over Egypt.
My research shows two possible dates for the solar
eclipse, one retro-calculation with "Voyager" software came up with June 1,
1478 BC, in the "pot" or "well" of Gemini; the other by Aymen M. Ibrahem,
author of Egyptian Cosmology, Part III, Solar Eclipses, places the eclipse
in year 15 of queen Hatshepsut, Julian date August 23, 1463 BC.
The latter date seems
more likely and is further corroborated by a reference to a solar eclipse in
the text on the base of the standing obelisk of the queen at Karnak and the
fact that the star Sirius, is shown as visible in the night sky, i.e. after
its rising in the month of July of that year.
:: OvS's reply. It will be important
to be cautious when using the "easy" software of astronomy programmes.
Generally, they are not very precise when going that far back in time. Then,
concerning two solar eclipses - 1478 BC and 1463 BC - which you mention
having taken place in the years of queen Hatshepsut - there seems to be some
differences here, since many indications prove that she died in the middle
of the 1480'es BG.
In the course of
Egyptology through the last 150 years, there exist many chronology
hypothesis on early 18th dynasty - and approx. every 15-20 years a new trend
is added. Again, be careful, the texts on the base of her obelisk are
well-known, and normally in the translations there seems no mention of any
An exact dating of the
Senmut star map - established by me, originally in 1984, and in 2000 being
published in an international scientific journal - is the first
astronomically based fixation of the period in question. A point in my
dating research on the map is the discovery of the fact that all, or almost
all, planets are gathered around the meridian of Sirius. A list of such
conjunctions - mostly taking place in the celestial sector Gemini - through
2300 years (100 AD--2200 BC) is available from my treatise, to be downloaded
These Sirius conjunctions
appear to be a somewhat rare phenomenon. However, if you only look for
conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn, these will happen every 20th year and
should be, accordingly, of no extra significance or interest.
careful also with this, last mentioned, type of conjunction, because no
ancient astronomer would ever mistake planetary conjunctions for a star (as
many have otherwise suggested for the so-called "Star of Bethlehem"). And by
the way, when determining the years of Jesus, most historians and
chronologists calculate - erroneously - the Roman emperor Tiberus from the
time of Augustus' death. But in fact, Tiberius was already emperor of the
eastern (!) part of the Roman Empire from the year 4 AD - he was then
Augustus' co-regent, and they are depicted together on Roman coins from that
time. - Hoping that the information will be of some use, - thanks for your
Ove von Spaeth
Mail, 29 December 2005 - question:
Chronology and conjunctions, II
In reference to my previous e-mail I wish to draw your attention to the now
proven parallel between the astronomical event around Moses' birth in Egypt
and the Star of Bethlehem around Jesus' birth. You write (correctly) there
is a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn about every 20th year. However, there
is a conjunction of these two planets in Pisces about every 800 years and
this "rarity" makes it a much more interesting phenomenon from the ancient
astrological viewpoint, astrology being an extension of the practice of
For several reasons
(described in my book), Matthew's Gospel is careful to describe the event
that prompted the wise men to visit Bethlehem as an astronomical event, only
the event was explained by the visiting astronomers-astrologers in
astrological terms. This is the key to understanding the singular use of the
word "star" by Matthew. It means the "Star Sign" or "Ascendant" (Jupiter
in Pisces) at birth and there are certain valid grounds why Pisces,
particularly in combination with Saturn, were considered by the wise men to
be connected with Israel.
Your research in relation
to the Senmut astronomical event complements my decade research in relation
to the hidden mathematical code in the prophecy of the "sevens" in chapter 9
of the Book of Daniel, which predicts the advent of the Messiah in the era
of the Roman Empire. On the basis of the discovered code, I have been able
to prove the chronology of Jesus, starting with his birth in 7/6 BC. All the
mutually inclusive evidence of the chronology (date of birth, baptism and
death) is in chapters 3-6 of my book with the proposed title IPSO FACTO (the
facts about Jesus). I have found your research a welcome complement to my
endeavour in having the results of my factual findings published.
:: OvS's reply. As I stated last time:
no astronomer of the ancient world would ever mistake a planet conjunction
for a "star". I cannot follow you any longer on that road. Besides, the
whole subject is not in the focus in my field of research.
Don't try to make
given facts fit into hypothesis - the whole operation should be done the
other way around, of course. You should research much more - e.g. when did
King Herod carried out his census? It took always place in connection with
taxations. Herod is known for lowering the tax with 25 per cent in the year
14 BC. Around that time there was a Roman governor Saturnius in Syria (in
Tyros) and he had the same name as another governor who was Quirinius'
predecessor, approx. 10 years later. The Bible's New Testament can fully
correctly(!) be translated so that its Greek text is pointing at either of
them, i.e. two different pointers for a time fixation.
The oldest Christian
calendars (Ethiopian and Armenian) go back to approx. year 10 BC.
Also Father of Church,
Origen of Caesarea (185-254), states that the so-called "Bethlehem star" was
not really a star, and he uses an expression from Egyptian-Greek astronomer Ptolemy in Alexandria while saying that it was not even a comet but
something more like a nebula - and by this brings us close to the same
description as used for Hipparchus' discovery of a nova (supernova). This
was an appearance which in fact would be noted, so unusual as it was. The
same goes for the biblical star observation in question. However, concerning
the planet Jupiter and the constellation Pisces alluding to Israel, all this
is a later speculation, a medieval concept having no support - not by even a
single source from Antiquity. Besides, there was almost never
any country "Israel" (except in eras of David-Solomon era and of the
Maccabees), but in the actual case being a Roman protectorate, Palestine,
which not even covered quite the same geographic area as alleged in the
In my first mail to you, I gave you some clues - and for the
present you get some more. If you won't receive them, there is nothing I can
do. However, it is well-known that many fine explorations have been done by
not following advice from others.
From the library you
could get a very ingenious and informative book written by a Norwegian friend of
mine - and although I do not necessary have to agree in all detail of his
special matter (e.g. the conjunction being a star), but still his valuable text
is full of many interesting data: Gustav Teres SJ: "The Bible and
Astronomy. The Magi and the Star in the Gospel", 3rd. ed., (Springer) Berlin and
Budapest, 1999. - Good luck, whatever you choose,
Ove von Spaeth
Biblesearchers.com, July 1st, 2003 -
This star-map describes
a planetary conjunction
The Astronomical Ceiling of Senmut's Tomb. - Senmut was the vizier to queen
Hatshepsut and also the calendar registrar of Egypt, during the 18th dynasty
(16th c. BCE). He was also chief architect of Queen Hatshepsut, the female
pharaoh's funeral mortuary temple near the Valley of the Kings.
According to A. Pogo, on
the ceiling panel of this architect's tomb, it "displays the celestial heavens
including the zodiac and other constellation ... (A. Pogo, "The Astronomical
Ceiling Decoration in the Tomb of Senmut (XVIIIth Dynasty)," Isis (1930) ...
This star-map actually
describes a planetary conjunction in which the planet position is defined to a
certain sector of the sky, plus a solar eclipse. As such, precise astronomical
calculation can date this map to the date, May, 1534 BCE (Ove von Spaeth,
"Dating the Oldest Egyptian Star Map", International Journal of the History of
Science, Centaurus, vol 42:3 (2000):159-179).
Robert D. Mock, MD, Evidence of Catastrophes in the Natural World,
topics: Polar Reversals -
http://biblesearchers.com/catastrophes/catastrophes6.shtml - & -
email@example.com - (1.Jul.2003)
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