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¤ TheGenesisLetters.com, autumn 2004 - introduction:
Ove von Spaeth makes a compelling argument

          Welcome to The Genesis Papers - The results of a 30 year study of the first four narrations of Genesis, the cosmogony of Moses. Studies That are Related to The Ennead Structure of Genesis. - The following online sources do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the of The Genesis Letters web site. They are given in this section because they in some way reflect or relate to the ennead cosmogony of Moses or to ancient cosmology in general:

          Ove von Spaeth - www.moses-egypt.net - New research and investigation into the person of Moses. There have been dozens of candidates for the historical Moses and Ove von Spaeth makes a compelling argument by the correlation of a vast amount of ancient historical records that Moses was an Egyptian, next in line to be Pharaoh, who was supplanted by a relative. Moses was then exiled and his name removed from Egyptian records as if he did not exist: -

          - "... This work is inter-disciplinary to an exceptional degree, based on extensive and thorough studies within history, theology, archaeology, and history of religion as well as history of astronomy... with zeal and flair Ove von Spaeth has collected evidence from widely different sources to support his main thesis regarding Moses and his status and place in history ...".
          Kristian Peder Moesgaard, D.Sc., Professor, History of Science Department, Aarhus University; - Director of the Steno Museum, Danish National Museum for the History of Science, Aarhus.

www.thegenesisletters.com/index.html  -  (autumn 2004)

¤ www.merling.dk, permanent text, spring 2005  -  supplementary info:
Secret knowledge

          "... What is a treasure? Most people think of gold and jewels. Few think of knowledge. But knowledge is an even greater treasure than gold and jewels. With knowledge you can have gold and jewels - and so much more. We have heard of the Arc of the Covenant given to Moses and later placed in the Temple of Solomon. It is an important religious relict.
          Did the first Temple of Solomon also hold an ancient archive - secret documents dating back to Moses and Egypt? Historians find this hypothesis likely. If so - what knowledge was contained in this archive? What happened to it? Could it be found? - Moses supplied the archive with his own handwritten books - the Books of Moses. The archive is the original Jewish "bible" - the original Old Testament. Only the initiated - selected member of the priesthood - had access.
          This archive contained secret religious documents, which Moses got access to, when he plundered the Egyptian temples prior to the exodus. (see: www.moses-egypt.net ) ...".

Erling Haagensen, Writer and Film Director, Member of Danish Film Directors, - www.merling.dk  - & -  www.merling.dk/this_hypothesis_is_sustained.htm  - (spring 2005)

¤ Letter, 5 November, 2001 - comments:
A surprise

          This book was a surprise. I certainly believe that Moses was to become pharaoh in Egypt. - Very interesting is also the text about the oldest alphabet (pages 183-190) and to read the entire book.
          I wish you a continued success with your research work.

Gustav Teres SJ, Bibel Exegetician lic.art., and Astronomer lic.scient.,
Oslo, Norway  -  &  -  Vatican Observatory, Castel Gandolfo  -  (5.Nov.2001)

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¤ Comment, 5 January 2004  -  opinion:
Parts of the 'Learned' World Regard Moses a Fictive Person

It made me very happy that I found your books about Moses at the library in September -simultaneously, when ideas about Hatshepsut with a possible connection to Moses were very much present in my thoughts. I did not know your books, and a full filial relation had not entered my mind; I saw Hatshepsut only as the biblical daughter of Pharaoh. Nor did I know that the majority of the "learned" world considered Moses a fictive person.
          In the bookshop I learnt that the first book was sold out from the publishers; - and the publishers told me that the first book and the book number four were soon to be published. Volume one certainly contains material enough for consideration - but I do look forward to volume four.

          I know that you are more than aware of the opposition because of the work you are doing, but you may also know so well how to protect yourself, otherwise you would not have come this far. "Popularity" is not necessarily a blessing, and even if it is positive you should be better prepared than for war if you want to stick to the "track" all the way through. Thank you for your work.

Lena Rotenberg, - Educational Consultant and Deputy Chief Assessor for the
International Baccalaureate Organization's Theory of Knowledge Course  -  (5.Jan.2004)

¤ Comment, 23 November 2004  -  opinion:
Researching Level By Level

At a recent get-together in my home a small group of guests had read and were now debating your fourth book, i.e. Volume four - "The Secret Religion". It was particularly interesting how Ms. Inger Weidner, one of the guests, had made thorough studies. It is exciting how she has read your book (and notes that you write in a language with accumulating sentences); and we all agree to her observation that line by line, section or chapter you have researched level by level way back through times and included all the time zones of the different subjects you describe.
          Everything is thoroughly considered to the tiniest detail - your knowledge strikes us dumb. You comprise everything, nothing has been neglected, well, perhaps in your eyes, but to the reader this is a masterpiece.

Ulla Runchel,  Futurologist, Researcher, Writer, - Rancho de la Luz, Mijas, Spain - www.forvandlinghskuglen.webbyen.dk  -  (23.Nov.2004)


(Editor's note: Ulla Runchel is the author of "The Crystal Universe", 2003, - Universal Growth Publishing, Phoenix, Arizona)

¤ Jewish Education Centre, web-site, November 2001  -  presentation:
Knowledge and New Material about Moses

          "... (Culture.) Ove von Spaeth - with a series of five books in which and based on history studies the writer goes through with his aim to describe the Moses history. The writer presents how he has succeeded in writing a work in which among other things the knowledge of the Moses's status and time now is being re-established or in some cases re-interpreted, all based on new material. ...
          Volume II and Volume III can also be found in the Centre's collection, which is especially determined for studies. The Centre's aim is to inform about all aspects of Jewry - from religion, culture, and history to politics. ..."

Jewish Education Centre, Denmark, DK-2100 Copenhagen Ø,  -
www.moasiske.dk/jo/tema.htm  -  (November 2001)

¤ The Question and Answer Encyclopedia  -  May 2010  -  reference:
The special historical subjects concerning Moses?

Experts123.com - The Question and Answer Encyclopedia, ...was founded on a very simple premise. We want to have a great answer for every question. We want to build a community of knowledge sharing that will benefit us all - a vibrant knowledge system which we all benefit from.

Q:   What was the reason for examining the special historical subjects concerning Moses?
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1 Answer - rank 1
::  Ove von Spaeth's reply.   The re-evaluation of the identity of Moses and his background was necessitated by the fact that a lot of new knowledge had not been related to a number of relevant, ancient sources.
          In some cases the new knowledge had not been examined further as when, for instance, Egyptologists and archaeologists are seen to perform - often more prestigious-giving - new initiatives and excavations, rather than using the increased knowledge of their professional field to give an important, necessary, and most valuable finishing study to many of the previous discoveries.
          Often, also many ancient sources have not been thoroughly tested, because they may appear as "alienated" compared to hitherto "canonized" knowledge. The impression of this shortage was confirmed to the writer during his contact with many of the involved scientific areas.
          An early founded interest by Ove von Spaeth for history and astronomy lead to the acquaintance of the world's oldest star map ...  
          - more at:  http://www.moses-egypt.net/book-series/moses_info+faq_en.asp

Experts123.com, - http://www.experts123.com/q/what-was-the-reason-for-examining-the-special-subjects-concerning-moses.html  -  (May,2010)

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¤ 14 January 2006  - comment:
Something that makes sense

Ove, Thank you for all of your research. Finally something that makes sense.
It's up to us to get the truth out, buddy.

Dianna Padgett, Writer, Researcher, Translator, - dgp217@hotmail.com & dgp217@sedona.net
& Transframe, - www.geocities.com/dianna217.geo/transframe.htm  - & - www.geocities.com/dianna217.geo/msmoses.htm - (14.Jan.2006)

PS, You have no idea how much I want to be able to read those books on the historical Moses you have published. But, as I was informed, the first volume is coming out in English soon. So very much looking forward to it.


(ed.note: Dianna Padgett is the author of the book: "V I AMR, Becoming Manifest Transformation . A Qabalistic and Egyptian Analysis of the Formula of Creation as Found in Genesis 1-4". Tiamat Press 2003, Denver, Colorado, www.geocities.com/dianna217.geo/home.htm
)

¤ Introductory paper, 5 March  -  comment:
With unusual insight and understanding

          "It might as well be said at once: This work probably renders the most original, and in various ways most well supported offer for an answer to the (Moses)question within modern research. - The author Ove von  Spaeth has a rare aptitude for passing on an extremely complex and sometimes not very accessible subject matter in a vivid yet logically structured and easily understood manner. - One feels enriched as a human being, not just intellectually enlightened, when he with unusual insight and understanding explains the religious rationale behind innumerable phenomena of history as well as present time. Having read this work nobody will doubt the obvious relevance to modern people of studying antiquity".

Jens-André P. Herbener, M.A. in comparative religion and Semitic philology; - Project leader at The Royal Library of Denmark, of the new scholarly translation into Danish of the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament)

¤ Reader's mail, 23 November 2001  -  comments:
When will the next book arrive?

Allow me here to inform you that I feel lucky to have had the opportunity to read the new book about Moses, the Volume 3. And what a book. I am once again deeply impressed by this book-series. I think that this book stands as the strongest so far, although the other two even also are on the top.

          What book of knowledge have been written here, but how impressing that the author has read all the literature involved and have collected and joined all the information? The author of this book shows an ability of being very well writing, well-formulating, and quite naturally - and all the time also updating readers of the difficult material without being annoying repetitive - all of which is formidable. It is a masterpiece - and it deserves the widest dissemination.

          I have enjoyed every minute of the book, when will the next arrive - that is, "The Secret Religion"? I just had to send my tribute after reading and finishing the present book - and give my congratulations to it. - Many friendly greetings,

Gorm Eriksen, Jægerborgvej 50, 2800 Lyngby - www.gormeriksen.dk  -  (23.Nov.2001)

(publication approved in writing of November 23, 2001, by Gorm Eriksen)

¤ Who.knows-everything.com, - February 2006  -  info: 
Zum Thema "Moses"

          Moses. - From Wikipedia. - (See also: Exodus)
Moses or Môses (משה 'drawn', Standard Hebrew M 161;e, Tiberian Hebrew Mōšeh), son of Amram and his wife, Jochebed, a Levite. Legendary Hebrew liberator, leader, lawgiver, prophet, and historian. If he is a historical figure, he may have lived between the 18th century BCE and the 13th century BCE.
          According to the Hebrew Bible, Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt. He received the Torah Of Judaism from God on Mount Sinai. The Torah contains the life story of Moses and his people till his death at the age of 120 years.
          Moses' greatest legacy was probably expounding the doctrine of monotheism, which was not widely accepted at the time, codifying it in Jewish religion with the 1st (and most important) Commandment, and punishing polytheists. He is revered as a prophet in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
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          Unsere Meta-Suche zum Thema "Moses" lieferte folgende Ergebnisse:
2: The Mystery of Moses Re-evaluated ( http://www.moses-egypt.net )
An Interpretion of the Moses Character and His Era on the Basis of Interdisciplinary Studies on history, archaeology, religious History, theology, and astronomy

who.knows-everything, - http://who.knows-everything.com/Moses  -  (Feb.2006)

¤ Arabo.com, International, Arabo Egypt History, summer 2004  -  reference:
Moses & New Research - معلومات و خدمات إضافية

An interpretation of Moses as a historical person and of the chronology of his era, based on inter-scientifical research in history, Egyptology, theology, archaeology, and historical astronomy. http://www.moses-egypt.net   - More Information and Service...  معلومات و خدمات إضافية

Arabo.com, International, Arabo Egypt History, - http://www.arabo.com/home.html - & - www.arabo.com/links/,227,213,209/,202,199,209,237,206/more16.html ,  - (summer 2004)

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¤ Teosofisk Forening Stavanger, www.teosofi.no , November 2004  -  info: 
From a series of untraditional sources

A coup took place and prevented Moses from seizing the throne of Egypt which, according to ancient Jewish texts, the Rabbinical Writings, he was acknowledged to and highly educated for. From a series of untraditional sources it shows the Moses from his exile during a long time skillfully interfered politically by intrigues in order to regain the throne.
          In connection with astronomic phenomena a unique coherence of source material and dating is being revealed.
          Archaeological finds enlighten the data from the writings of antiquity indicating the traces of important places where the Exodus people were hiding "in the desert" for more than 30 years. In scale probably never seen before in a history work, there is being included in a greater wholeness the political interfering mystery cults and religious-magical customs. - Ove von Spaeth: "The Vanished Successor" ("Assassinating Moses", Vol. 3).

Theosophical Society Stavanger, Norway, - esoteriske boker - Mollegaten 37, Stavanger, - http://www.teosofi.no/131.html  -  (Nov.2004)

¤ Reader's mail, 19 February 2002 - comments and information:
Lectures and travelling - on the trail of Moses in Egypt

As it is apparently not uncommon among many other readers of the Moses book-series, I also read these works several times, also because I have discovered that each new review further gives considerable information and understanding.
          Truly overwhelming because your books are bulging of exciting stories, a plethora of interesting material. I am thrilled infinitely much, because of the content and also for a talent of a storyteller far beyond the ordinary. I am simply deeply impressed.

          I started soon to use knowledge from books as the basis for parts of my travelling lecturing activities. At the latest it is brought into reality that this information is also included as the core of some specially arranged Egypt-travels in connection my other travel business to this wonderful country with its rich uplifting culture of the past; in other words - on the trail of Moses in Egypt.

          It can be summarized here that my background as a travel guide and course leader is that I for decades have examined the history of older religions including having studied the esoteric teachings, and I have many times travelled in Egypt where I have lived for a long period of time to study the ancient culture in the light of these ancient teachings.
          For participants no prerequisites are required beyond the desire to experience the ancient Egypt's glory and mystery in a new light. The books of the Moses-series are, of course, recommended among the central literature in a preliminary reading before departure, when we realize the project.

Erik Ansvang, lecturer, writer, Egypt-tour-guide-and-organizer, - St. Knudsvej 39, DK-1903 Frederiksberg C - www.visdomsnettet.dk - & www.egyptenrejser.dk - (19.Feb.2002)

(publication approved in writing of February 22, 2002, by Erik Ansvang)

¤ Museum Open Directory, Iraq Museum International, April 2005  -  info: 
Museum Open Directory 

Iraq Museum International: Museum Directory ... http://www.moses-egypt.net. "New data concerning Moses as a historical person is based on Ove von Spaeth's inter-scientifical research in history, Egyptology, theology, archaeology, historical astronomy, ancient languages, religions, and cultic traditions. And revealing Senmut as being contemporary with Moses, and making the chronology more precise ..."

Baghdad Museum, Iraq Museum International, Museum Open Directory - www.baghdadmuseum.org/dir/index.php?c=/ World/Dansk/Videnskab/Humaniora/Arkæologi/Ægyptologi/ - (April 2005)

¤ Frankerne.dk -  6 September 2004  -  recommendation: 
The Egyptian Legacy

There has been written a lot about the Knights Templar. Many questions have been asked - and more and more appears from the shadows ofv the past. - Cf. Ove von Spaeth's articles and his books - it also concerns the question:
          What did the Knights Templar in reality brought with them home from the ruins of King Salomon's castle in Jerusalem? It was something which shocked the Roman Curch thoroughly and made the Pope make the independent of any country and king, having only the Pope as their superior. ...
          One more subject is "the lost dimension" which Ove von Spaeth writes about in his books about Moses, i.e. the knowledge of the eternal soul always being on its way to its divine origin, through experience, reincarnation.

Thorstein Mikael Frank, - Frankerne.dk - (6.Sep.2004)

 

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Reader's mail, 28 January 2003 - comments and questions: 

The historical background brought much closer

Mr Ove von Spaeth. The books are the most informative, interesting and innovative books I've bought in the last years: THANKS. - I am also very interested in knowing whether the star map can be purchased?

          I reviewed your books for a group of teachers at the Farsoe School, and some of the people immediately went to the library. I hope this will result in purchase. My approach is: As an experienced teacher of religion and history (also sub-headmaster, and the guide at Aalborg Historical Museum and the Franciscan Monastery) I was often lacking - if I may say so - "meat on the bones" in connection with some of our old main figures from both religion and history as well.

          My point about the outcome of your major research is especially that our education concerning religion can obtain a so far lack of knowledge in order to make our common religion more present - and understandable - when teaching the oldest grades. I have arranged a lecture in the city of Hadsund in the autumn, especially about our oldest religions and with you as the source. Best greetings,

Niels Frank, Aalborg and Læsø, - niels.frank @ post.tdcadsl.dk  - (28.Jan.2003)


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¤ Newsgroups, The Byzantine Forum, Byzantine Catholic Church in America, 11.Jan.2003  -  opinion:
Fascinating research done on Moses

Genesis is a cosmogony. As such it is not history as we would write it or read it. The irregularities we find in it - were well known by the earliest Christians, especially within Alexandria (where Mark established the first school of catechism).
          Genesis is neither historical fact in the way we today would write history - nor is it fable. It is - cosmology - while even in the history of ancient cosmologies - it stands far above others.
J-P-E-D (assuming this is the current J and P sources designation)… poppy-cock… but it is quite understandable how scholars (who did not know how to read what they were looking at) would come up with a theory to explain it.

          . . . the original copies of "The Ten Commandments" chiseled into stone slabs - were actually the first four stories of Genesis written in the demotic text of the time (you wanted your people to be able to read it - right?) - these original stones were booty for Babylon when it conquered and looted the First Temple - and were subsequently lost or broken up for the value of the stone (a quartz-like and bluish topaz like material that was highly polished and reminded one of looking at water) after spending years in the Babylonian storage of looted treasures. What we have today (their written form) is Chaldean (Babylonian) script - which rightly today is called "Hebrew".
          Faithful reproductions of these stones exist in Ethiopia of today and are known there as "The Ark of The Covenant" or Ark 'container' of the governing agreement between the King and the people governed. In the case of Israel it was an agreement between a human king and his people but between a living Providence and his adopted people. . . .

          What IS unusual is the cosmogony itself (we call Genesis). These narratives are a mosaic formed along an ennead structure (now that was common) but their depth and perfection of inner relation (so far beyond others) seems to indicate that the whole thing (the first four narrations) were give to the seer's senses during an ecstatic state (a 'vision' which included all the senses). And for the first time the "view" that the cosmogony is written from is not one from the stance of man trying to understand the gods (or god - as Moses was not the first monotheism) but rather the narrations are written from the perspective of God - viewing man. In this way these tablets which contained the narrations in ten section - claimed to be revealed (give by the God himself - to the seer while in ecstatic state) - and this had never happened before nor after Moses in the anneals of cosmogony.
          All other cosmogonies can be read like the current vehicles of philosophy and theoplogy - which they were.  www.thegenesisletters.com  - and here is fascinating research done on Moses:
www.moses-egypt.net  of which I can personally vouch for the accuracy of his (Ove von Spaeth's) research and conclusions regarding who the historical Moses was. His books are not yet available in English.
          May I remind you that the subjects discussed above - are incidential to Church doctrine and this message only reflects my own understanding.

Ray Kaliss - Member # 1014 - [ 01-11-2003, 01:27 PM: Message edited by: RayK ] Posts: 253 - From: Meriden, CT, - The Byzantine Forum, Byzantine Catholic Church in America, - http://www.byzcath.org/cgibin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000792;p=2  -  (11.Jan.2003)

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¤ theologyweb.com/forum -  July 2010  -  debate:
Works of von Spaeth interesting considering Exodus

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What is your opinion on the Exodus?

...Where Moses meets Aaron (Ex. 4:27) is not of much help, because Aaron would have had to travel more than a convenient distance no matter which Mt. Sinai location is supposed (150 to 250 miles). But you are correct that these verses favor Mt. Sinai being between Midian and Egypt, not at the south of Midian where Moeller places it. You obviously do not favor the traditional location at the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula, so what mountain is your candidate?

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I found the works of Ove von Spaeth rather interesting when considering Exodus: http://www.moses-egypt.net/book-series/moses_survey_en.asp

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¤ Mail, 3 November 2001  -  commentary question:
The accuracy of the Bible

It seems clear to me that you have some doubt about the accuracy of the Bible. If this is the case how would you describe so many people crossing the red sea? If you mentioned this on the web site I apologize for over looking it? - Thanks, 

Daniel, Brid102@aol.com  -  (November 3rd 2001)

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::   OvS's reply:    There is no greater problem with the accuracy of the Bible on this point concerning plausible history. The text informing of the 600,000 men joining the Exodus seems to have been misinterpreted.
          1000 = the Hebrew word eleph (not aleph) which also means family relatives (cf. Semitic philologist G.E. Mendelhall), thus the original meaning of the information of the Bible is: about 600 great groups, i.e. battle-groups or clans. This would most probably mean that there were a few hundred persons in every tribe/clan, each of them further divided i.e. into smaller groups like "family-tents" (households). Altogether about 6,000 men, not more.
          According to one of the Rabbinical Writings - Targum I, p 475 - at the time of the Exodus, the persecuting pharaoh said: "The number of the Israelites is very low". In addition, much more information inside and outside the Bible support this result. - Thanks for your interest,
          Ove von Spaeth
 

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¤ Letter, 22 April 2003  -  questions:
Moses' official duties in Egypt recorded?

          By studying Moses the question came up: What was Moses taught as an adopted son of a pharaoh and, thus, what were his responsibilities in Egypt? Was it recorded?
          And what was the main reason why Moses did not build the Tabernacle himself? - Somebody have said he was a shepherd so he couldn't build. Others think he was able to do it, because in Egypt he was in charge of the building of the pyramids. - Could you help us out. Thanks,

Darlene Mason, Richmond, Virginia 23233, - queenofcamelotl@aol  -  (22.Apr.2003)

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::   OvS's reply.   Being "child of the palace" - i.e. officially belonging to that certain group at pharaoh's court - Moses obligatorily has been educated by officials like "the teachers of the royal children" and "the chief of the royal harem".
          And because "Pharaoh's Daughter" - exactly as the Bible's name of the princess who raised Moses - was a royal title for the crown princeses only, Moses have soon assumed the duties of a crown prince. It was a custom for most Egyptian crown princes to be a governor (and leading government contractor) of the Northern part of Egypt, Lower Egypt. And also the Bible indicates parts of this context, by telling that Moses was in charge of the working Hebrews in Egypt and that those groups were living in the Northern districts (Goshen).

          Later on, Moses constructed the Tabernacle. He gave his precise instructions in fine detail to be effectuated the colleagues as any leader would do. Besides, it was just a sensible thing to do because at that time he was more than 80 years old.

          Moses was never in charge of building the pyramids, which were constructed for more than 800 years before his time. - (Forget everything you may have seen in the movie "Prince of Egypt". Here they even used scaffolds of wood when building the pyramids - in spite of the fact that wood was too scarce in ancient Egypt and not normaly to be used for scaffolds. On numerous sites the archaeologists have found the real scaffolds made out of mud bricks, easy to produce and easy to pile or move).
          Ove von Spaeth

 

                        

¤ Newsgroups, FFI Discussion Forum (Faith Freedom International Forum), 17.Jan.2004  -  opinions:
Moses may have actually existed

          "... 'Bread' wrote - Quote: Moses didn't exist either. - Well Bread you are probably right, but there has been some new stuff, which indicated that he may have actually existed and that the Exodus probably took place. It is fairly complex and is explained in BAR (Biblical Archaeology Review) issue of about 2 months ago. They believe the oldest writing of the OT took place with in 100 years of the Exodus and it is called "The Song of Miriam". There is more new stuff that they have translated which dates it with in 100 years or 5 generations of the happening ..." - (BAR Nov/Dec 2003, article: "Israelites in Exile" - and further on this site the reference: www.moses-egypt.net ).      

Bush Badee, (location USA), - FFI Discussion Forum (Faith Freedom International Forum), posts 1823, - www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php  -  (17.Jan.2004)

¤ James Cameron, The New York Times, and the Red Sea, 6 April 2007  -  reflections:
Did the Red Sea part? Absence of evidence is not an evidence of absence

Prior to Easter the following text appeared in The New York Times - and I bring an excerpt here:

          "... Did the Red Sea Part? No Evidence, Archaeologists Say; - by Michael Slackman, The New York Times, April 3, 2007:
          On the eve of Passover ... Egypt's chief archaeologist - Dr. Zahi Hawass - took a bus full of journalists into the North Sinai to showcase his agency's latest discovery. It didn't look like much - some ancient buried walls of a military fort and a few pieces of volcanic lava. ... That prompted a reporter to ask about the Exodus, and if the new evidence was linked in any way to the story of Passover? The archaeological discoveries roughly coincided with the timing of the Israelites' biblical flight from Egypt and the 40 years of wandering the desert in search of the Promised Land. - "... Really, it's a myth," Dr. Hawass said of the story of the Exodus, as he stood at the foot of a wall built during what is called the New Kingdom.
          - But Egypt is also a spiritual center, where for centuries men have searched for the meaning of life. Sometimes the two converge, and sometimes the archaeological record confirms the history of the faithful. Often it does not, however, as Dr. Hawass said with detached certainty - "... Sometimes as archaeologists we have to say that never happened because there is no historical evidence, ..."
          - Dr. Mohamed Abdel-Maqsoud, the head of this excavation, seemed to sense that such a conclusion might disappoint some. - Then he offered another theory, "... a pharaoh drowned and a whole army was killed," he said (recounting the portion of the story that holds the parted Red Sea to allow the Israelites to escape and closed the waters on the pursuing army), - "... and Egyptians do not document their crises."

Few months ago 'Titanic' filmmaker James Cameron on his movie on the Exodus proclaimed it possible to find scientific evidence of biblical "Red Sea parting" - and he was much criticized.
          The biblical event might not have happened as described, probably not. But what was it then that happened? I think there is a core of truth in all myths of this carat.

          In your Moses-series' volume 3, "The Vanished Successor" you document meticulously in the chapter 10 that the Bible and the Rabbinical Writings contain enough data about the episode to prove a natural and fine logical coherence - also with the geography and all the archaeological facts - so, without any problem, the description can present pure realism.
          I have now re-read your text in the book, i.e. the volume 3 of your Moses-series, and I must say that what you have established is most convincing (as usual). The core of truth, which has to exist, I think is really present here.

Bjorn Andersen, Journalist DJF, Lecturer and MA in Literary criticism and Linguistic science at Copenhagen University, former Programme Editor at the Danish National Television - biorn@mail.dk  -  (6.Apr.2007)

¤ The Jewish daily Forward   -  23  July 2012  -  archaeology news:
Archeologists Probe Torching of Caananite City of Hatzor

News   Clues to 3,400-Year-Old Mystery
Archeologists Probe Torching of Caananite City of Hatzor

Israeli archaeologists have recently unearthed a palace at the Tel Hatzor National Park in Upper Galilee, revealing rare findings - jugs containing scorched wheat from some 3,400 years ago.
          The find provides still more tangible evidence of the destruction of Canaanite city of Hatzor, an event dated at the mid-13th century B.C.E.
          The jugs were found during the excavation of storerooms in what archaeologists say was a palace. In addition to the jugs, many other artifacts found at the site testify to a large fire that raged through the palace – sooty walls, bricks that burned and became rock-hard from the extreme heat, a ceiling that collapsed and burnt cedar wood beams.
          The excavations are being conducted by a team from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, headed by Prof. Amnon Ben-Tor and Dr. Sharon Zuckerman.
          "We're talking about a very exciting discovery. This is a rare find, something very uncommon," said Ben-Tor, who has been working at Tel Hatzor since 1958, when he joined a team headed by Yigael Yadin since 1956.
          "The archaeology of the land of Israel was born of an effort to confront and verify the biblical narrative with the findings in the field," he said. "One of the biggest stories is the story of the [Jews'] conquest and settlement of the land. That's a seminal story and that's why Yadin came here, to check the story."

          The story of Hatzor's destruction is told in Joshua 11:10-11: "At that time Joshua turned back and captured Hatzor and put its king to the sword. Hatzor had been the head of all these kingdoms. Everyone in it they put to the sword. They totally destroyed them, not sparing anyone, and he burned Hatzor itself."
          This battle was important because it cleared the way for the Israelites to settle the land from the Arava in the south to Mount Hermon in the north, as described a few verses later.
          "If there was an incredible destruction at Hatzor, then we've gotten to it," Ben-Tor continued. "There was a huge blaze here that turned the bricks into concrete and melted ceramic vessels. According to various tests, the heat of the fire reached 1,300 degrees Centigrade (2,372 degrees Farenheit). Three factors contributed to this - the quantity of wood used in the palace's construction, the large stocks of oil that were stored here and the area's very strong winds."
          Ben-Tor added that "when one tries to confront the biblical story with archaeology in the field, there are a lot of disagreements. I claim this destruction was carried out by nomads or semi-nomadic tribes that were later called Israelites."  He reached this conclusion after eliminating other possible invaders, such as the Egyptians or the Philistines or the residents of another city.
Zuckerman, Ben-Tor's excavation partner, has a different theory. She attributes the destruction to internal tensions that were plaguing the town.
          "It turns out that there's a 100-150 year gap between the destruction of Hatzor and the settlement of the Israelites. Whoever destroyed this city abandoned it and the Israelites settled there only later," she says.

Haaretz, - The Jewish daily Forward, Published July 23, 2012 - http://forward.com/articles/159800/clues-to--year-old-mystery/?goback=%2Egde_690807_member_138050197  -  (23.Jul.2012)

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Comments:

Hello, Ove von Spaeth, - Very exciting. It is fairly new - I've heard about people who grew up in a kibbutz just next to Hazor and at that time excavations at Hazor was not carried out. It was then just a huge hill often being used bychildren as a playground!
          Bjorn Andersen, - Journalist MDJ, and author, - 29 July 2012 14:32
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Hello, Bjorn Andersen, - Again we see that the Book of Joshua is being confirmed by the dating  -as I earlier have presented that text regarding the dating of Joshua's burning of Jericho, in "Assassinating Moses" vol. 3. However, the mad theory of Moses as a person being placed later in history these researchers cannot escape completely and this is causing some confusion among them.
          Ove von Spaeth, - Man, 30 July 2012 10:11
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Yes, it is in fact regretable that your books have not yet been published internationally. It is out there where your work and your well-substantiated theories belong.
          Bjorn Andersen, - 30 July 2012 09:52
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          Book crisis and financial crisis - and which publisher abroad would invest in a relatively foreign author's works - but one day a miracle will take place, I believe this.
          Ove von Spaeth, - Man, 30 July 2012 10:11
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And you also have reason for being faithful to that.
          Bjorn Andersen, - 30 July 2012 10:21

 
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¤ Reader's mail  -  26 November 2009  -  question: 
On the phenomena in the sky seen by the Israelites 

Hej Ove von Spaeth, - Efter att ha hittat din hemsida om Moses så hoppas jag att du är rätt person för att hjälpa mig med följande.
          Det finns någon gammal berättelse om att en "stjärna" blev synlig i samband med att Moses föddes. Jag skulle vilja veta i vilken text denna "stjärna" finns omnämnd.
          Dessutom undrar jag om en annan sak. När israeliterna lämnade Egypten så följde de på dagen en molnstod och på natten en eldstod. Är detta himlafenomen eldstoden/molnstoden omnämnt i någon annan text än Bibeln? Jag menar omnämnt med detaljer som inte kan vara tagna från Bibelns berättelse. Jag får intrycket att inget finns angivet utöver vad som står i Bibeln. - Tack på förhand. Vänliga hälsningar,

Göran Johansson, - 26. November 2009 18:43  -  (26.Nov.2009)

PS, Om du undrar vem jag är så är jag astronom som forskar om astronomiska fenomen som var synliga för några tusen år sedan. Jag brukar besöka institutionen för astronomi vid Lunds universitet en gång i veckan. Om du undrar över min forskning så kan du läsa följande. Nature, 2007, 19 juli, sídan 251.
          Z-Camelopardalis är namnet på en stjärna som ibland ändrar ljusstyrka, och jag är personen som identifierade att det finns en kinesisk uppteckning av den från år 77 f Kr. Världens äldsta exempel på en klassisk nova.

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The question from the astronomer of Sweden translates:

On the phenomena in the sky seen by the Israelites
Hi   Ove von Spaeth, - After having found your website about Moses, I hope you are the right person to help me with the following.
          There is an old story that "star" was visible in the context of the birth of Moses. I would like to know in which text this "star" is mentioned.
          Moreover, I wonder about something else. When the Israelites left Egypt they watched in the daytime a piller of cloud and a pillar of fire by night. Is this celestial phenomenon  pillar of fire/piller of cloud mentioned in any text other than the Bible? By this I mean mentioned in detail which cannot have been taken from the Bible story. I get the impression that nothing of this is given beyond what is written in the Bible. - Thanks in advance. Best regards,

Goran Johansson, - 26th November 2009 18:43  -  (26.Nov.2009)

PS, If you're wondering who I am, I am an astronomer who does research on astronomical phenomenon which was visible for a few thousand years ago. I usually visit the Department of Astronomy at the University of Lund once a week. If you're wondering about my research so you can read the following. Nature, 2007, July 19, page 251st
Z-Camelopardalis is the name of a star that sometimes change its brightness, and I am the person who identified that it exists in a Chinese record of the year 77 BC. The world's oldest example of a classical nova.
 

¤ Overview  -  28 November 2009  -  answering: 
The pillars of the cloud and of fire, during Exodus
By  OVE VON SPAETH

         - Answering Goran Johansson (cf. above message: "On the phenomena ..."):

          1.  - Concerning the star: There was no certain, sensational star in the sky at the birth of Moses but the sources mention a very large planetary conjunction, 3 years prior to this.
          This information about the big conjunction is not from the Bible but from the Rabbinical Writings and can be astronomical proven as being of greatest probability. However, all this is written in my book's first chapter which has been translated into Swedish - you can read it here:
http://www.moses-egypt.net/bok1/moses1-kap1_se.asp ( http://www.moses-egypt.net/book1/moses1-cap1_en.asp )  - chapter 1: The Lost Astronomical Record, - and in this paragraph: Is it Possible to Use Astronomy to Date the Birth of Moses?

          2.  - Concerning the phenomenon at exodus: - A phenomenon mentioned in connection with the sky is not necessarily something literarily taking place (up there) in the sky but maybe just having the sky as background. The Bible do not state that it was a celestial event. The text, below, from the Moses-series' vol. 3, where I explain the whole thing, may probably be sufficient?
          From Ove von Spaeth's book: "The Vanished Successor; Moses' Hidden War before and after Exodus Rediscovered". Assassinating Moses, vol. 3 (Copenhagen, 2001). Some biblical expressions are quoted from the The King James edition.
 

Extracts from the vol. 3's CHAPTER 10:
 
- The pillar of the cloud during the day and the pillar of fire at night

Résumé:  -  Hypothesis about a pillar of cloud and a pillar of fire and smoke coming from a volcanic eruption have proven unrealistic in relation to time and geographically out of focus.
               -  In all ancient military history pillars of fire and smoke were known as perfect means of directing large groups and were effective as false signals or misleading the enemy. Besides, smoke was used to blur the enemy's vision.

Strategic Abilities of Moses and his Use of Pyrotechnics

The biblical narratives about Moses report on a special phenomenon appearing in the eastern sky during the first three days of the Moses and Israelite exodus from Egypt - and it was a visible guide in the desolate and desert-like landscape for the first 140 kilometres towards the Red Sea.
          Once again Moses benefitted from his military training as a young man. This was also reflected in the admirable and ingenious tactics used during the exodus. In Exodus (13:21 and 14:19-21) of the Hebrew Bible is stated that
                    "... by day in a pillar of a cloud to lead them the way; and by night a pillar of fire to give them light; to go by day and night. By day the pillar of the cloud was not taken away, nor the pillar of fire by night ..."
                    "... the pillar of the cloud came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to the former and it gave light by night to the latter; so that the one (group) came not near the other all the night ..."
          This practice is a well-known warfare strategy of that time: smoke and fire signals often directed large detachments. Along their borders the Egyptians had many signal stations (in forts) - especially along the Nile; these signals were in operation as late as until the year 1900 - when the first dam of the Nile was inaugurated.

          At a certain time another interpretation might have been significant - at least for the later biblical editing - because the fire phenomenon may also be interpreted as an affirmative recurrence of a sign once appearing in relation to the Jahweh prophecy regarding the stay in Egypt of Abraham's descendants and their later exodus where Moses at Sinai entrusted them with the Covenant: because - as described in Genesis (15:17) - and immediately prior to a previous established pact between Jahweh and Abraham - Abraham had this vision:
                    "... a smoking furnace and a burning fire that passed between ..."
          The Bible presents special occurrences among the Israelites during the exodus as evoked by "an act of Jahweh". However, before all important doings everywhere in Antiquity - whether a great king or a low rank foreman initiating a work on a project - such actions were mandatory and connected with that one or more gods were to be beseeched for getting a support during cultic ceremonies.
          Inevitably, also Moses must have made such sacrifices or invocations of the divine powers as of Jahweh or Elohim, and it was imperative for a good result that these powers were given the honour - or part of it - the way primitive people of today still practice cultic magic.

          As by his command of the fire - the pyrotechnics - Moses has also been able to manoeuvre the smoke. The simultaneous and unwanted side effect of both the fire and the smoke as means of signals had the route of escape revealed to the pursuing Egyptians. Not only does the text show that a necessary transposition of smoke signals had been used to deceive the Egyptian army and mislead it from the Israelite main position; but also that production of smoke by different means had been arranged in order to create a wall of smoke, just like in today's warfare when making a screen of artificial smoke (cf. the Bible's Psalm 105:39).
          A real sabotage to the Egyptian chariots obviously took place in their camp under cover of the dark smoke screen, and the collapse of the chariots was among the favourable opportunities in the Israelite's escape to Sinai, according to Exodus (1:24-25) stating that:
                    "... he looked unto the host of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and of the cloud he looked unto the host of the Egyptians camp and caused confusion in the Egyptian camp. ... And took wheels of off their chariots so that they (the Egyptians) could not drive them ..."
          Due to lack of historical knowledge many of these in militarily tactics rather banal teasing against the enemy were later perceived as being glorified and miraculous.

Symbolic significances
Later many of the biblical events were later as symbolic significances used by Jewish Mystics and the Gnostics - and were also used by the Church as religious symbolism. Since the years after ca. 400 BC Christianity named recently baptized persons illuminati, i.e. "the enlightened", referring to the appearing pillar of fire at march out of Egypt during the Easter, and the importance of which was integrated in a sentence of the Easter hymn of thanksgiving saying that the doings of the Holy Spirit were incorporated in columnae illuminatione, i.e. "by the light of the pillar of fire".
          By means of his so-called knowledge of alchemy demonstrated by Moses, for instance, in some of the "Ten plagues of Egypt" he has also been able to make a fire flame like a pillar towards the sky.
          Likewise, reports can be read about a sacrifice in the honour of Alexander at the altar of the Jerusalem Temple where the fires apparently were directed by means of chemicals, spirits of wine, and Babylonian naphtha, thus creating an impressive pillar of fire towards the sky (well-known effects and means according to the research of for instance Robert Eisler).
          A similar example of this once so well-known phenomenon 1,100 years later was reported from Alexander the Great's conquering of Babylon when the defenders of the city tried to create horror by burning in all the streets of naphtha – extracted from asphalt-oil deposits. There are also reports about a sacrifice in the honour of Alexander at the altar of the Temple of Jerusalem, where the fires apparently were directed by means of chemicals, spirits of wine, and Babylonian naphtha, thus creating an impressive column of fire towards the sky (well known effects and means according to the research of for instance Robert Eisler).

          An obvious development of the pyrotechnics of Antiquity - a military secrecy monopolized by the Greeks - was the terrifying "Greek fire" known for its ability "to set water on fire". The oldest known report on this remedy is about the defense of Delphi against the Celts in 279 BC, and the last time was as late as in 1453 AD during the fruitless defense of Byzantium against the Islamic army. By the killing of the defenders of the city the knowledge of technical secrets became lost.
          From the Nile delta to the Red Sea, on an eastern route over the level countryside where only the curving of the earth behind the horizon limits the view, a signal fire might still only be visible at a distance of 10-15 kilometres despite the optimum conditions. This fact supports that the number of Israelites was limited, considering that people of many of the groups should be able to see this signal simultaneously.

Historically recognisable use of fire
Not only signals by fire and smoke have been used during the Israelite exodus but also, as mentioned, defence manoeuvres supported by the means of fire and smoke. The latter form of tactics is likely to have been made by setting fire to dry desert plants which appear so abundantly during springtime. Cordoning fires have been established in front of the pursuing Egyptians, who had now approached to a close nearness of the Israelites.
          This condition is also reported in the Rabbinical Writings, e.g. in Ginzberg's "Legends of the Jews", (Vol. 3, p. 20, and Vol. 6, p. 6), mentioning that
                    "... the arrows and missiles of the foremost Egyptian troops seemed to be caught by the fire and the smoke …" which "... made aiming impossible ..."
          The Rabbinical Writings amplify this by saying that the Israelites had created a "wall of fire".
          Obviously these texts present an exact report of the real event: Pharaoh had deliberately kept a distance to the Israelites - a distance of 160-170 metres - carefully worked out on strategic considerations.
          The distance matches the distance of a bowshot, however, a bowshot made by the Egyptian long-range so-called composite bows. This is in exact accordance with the historical fact that this new invention of laminated bows composed of layers of horn and different types of wood - a war technical heritage (as the chariots) from the expelled Hyksos occupants - had been introduced in the revitalized Egyptian army during the first years of the 18th Dynasty. Thus the fire- and smoke-"wall" was extremely necessary.
          The Israelite people's army cannot possibly be assumed to have been equipped with such expensive, modern and sophisticated weapons. The Israelites have been unable to efficiently respond to the shooting with their ordinary, short-range weapons. The Egyptians have had the advantage of keeping the calculated distance, so that they alone were able to hit their enemies. Thus, the fire and smoke "wall" was particularly necessary.

          Moreover, the Egyptian military had a firm and well-organized attack pattern where first a shower of arrows and then the throwing of javelins would break up enemy rows, among which the soldiers could intrude with drawn pointed weapons. Based on such well-researched circumstances it makes sense historically when the reports say that the Israelites established the wall of fire towards the Egyptian arrows and missiles.
          Important and exact details of this situation rule out completely the present hypotheses that, around 300 BC or later, Jewish clergy and learned men wrote the Rabbinical Writings' reports on the exodus. How should the Rabbis in specific details have known about Egyptian war technical skills more than 1,000 years earlier of their own time where Egypt was ruled first by the Greeks and then the Romans?

          In Alexandria the Jewish-Egyptian philosopher Philo had access to Egypt's old temple archives and to the world's largest library as well. In accordance with the Rabbinical Writings he does not mention in his Moses biography, written ca. 10 AD, that Jehovah interfered immediately; instead he says that "an angel" launched the implementation of the fire phenomena.
          When time and again the Rabbinical Writings about Egyptian circumstances in the era of Moses describe "an angel" this figure is in no way corresponding to "angels" in the later European-Christian tradition. The events were contextual rituals presenting the participants dressed as gods acting according to their performance in question.
          According to this, people must have been stirred when some of Moses' most reliable men leading this action of making confusion were, as not usual practice, dressed in a ritual way and acted ahead of the army in order to exorcise the enemy. In addition, other action groups handling the fire have been dressed in fire protecting leather and wool "armor" - well-known, e.g. from workers of the ancient metal casting. That the Rabbinical Writings exposing such phenomena confirms the probability of these being in accordance with historical facts of the ancient time.

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INFORMATION: ON DATING THE PILLAR OF FIRE
Comet or Vulcan as a Sign Post?
From time to time there has been attempts to explain the pillars of cloud and of fire - in addition to the Bible's mentioning of fire and smoke at the Sinai mountain top, when Moses later climbed this mountain - all to be as certain natural phenomena.
          In some of these assumptions it is alleged that the pillars of cloud and of fire erupted volcanically from Mount Sinai, and that this "sacred mountain" was the eruption of smoke by day and fire by night. But on the Sinai Peninsula and in the surrounding area in today's Arabia, there has been no volcanic activity in the last 20-30.000 years or more. The Mount Sinai itself has never been a volcano! However, it is still a characteristic climatic phenomenon that these "West Arabian" mountains have frequent electrical storms on top.
          German Egyptologist Hans Goedicke argues in his article "The Canaanite Illness," in Studien zur Altägyptische Culture (Band 11, Hamburg, 1984) that the Israelites exodus took place in 1495 BC when the volcano on the Greek island of Santorini (Thera) had a violent outburst so that a part of the island disappeared. Atomized material from this disaster has been found in Egypt and in that hypothesis this is claimed to have caused some of the "Ten plagues of Egypt".
          The actual eruption would have formed an immense, 30-50 kilometres tall pillar of cloud and of pillar of fire, but due to the Earth's curvature it could not be observed from Lower Egypt. Substances from the eruption spread through the stratosphere across the globe, including the ice cap of Greenland where Danish glaciologists found traces of Santorini in the layer from about 1645 BC (cf. "Nature", vol. 328, 1987, pp.1-3). It is in accordance with carbon-14 dating measurements on the island, while dendrology is claimed to suggest the year 1628 BC. Both datings shows a much improved precision, defining eruption to have taken place about 150 years behind from Goedikes figures.

          Apart from the fact that these years are different from 1455 BC., i.e. the year of the exodus, the Goedike hypothesis about a volcanic eruption taking place as far away as 800 kilometres north of Egypt (where at least the curve of the earth would not have allowed the observation – as mentioned) cannot explain how this phenomenon could have been visible both in front of and behind the Israelites - as stated in the Bible - i.e. visible both on their way East through the desert in front of them and behind them in West.
          Suggestions have been made that instead of a better known phenomenon (and nothing extraordinarily like the Velikovsky theory about a collision of planets), this could be the tail of a very bright comet.
          Many comets are shining so brightly that even close to the sun they can be seen during daytime; - equally well-known are examples on comets with very long tails reaching from the nightly sky in west and far into the daytime sky in east.
          In these circumstances such a comet would "show the way" by appearing bright or smoke-like during night time as well as daytime and thus be seen in shifting positions in front of the Israelites as well as behind them. This, however, implies a comet with a retrograde orbit, i.e. an orbit opposite those of the moon and the planets. The orbits of 50 per cent of all big comets are retrograde.

          Reappearances of periodic comets, i.e. comets with observed reappearances, can be computed; thus also if the comet appeared in 1455 B.C., i.e. the year of the exodus, around the vernal equinox (Easter) of this year. The Halley comet, the 1811 comet, and the Aristotle comet would be the only periodic comets big and bright enough to evoke the said phenomenon (the Aristotle comet divided into two comets - and now, 2,300 years after Aristotle's observation - the orbits of these comets can still be identified, today known as the 1843 and the 1888II comets, respectively).
          However, the appearances of these periodic comets do not match the year 1455 BC., i.e. the time of the exodus; and thus not either the Halley comet - although more than 3,000 years ago this comet also had a significant brightness, besides having a retrograde orbit. But when Halley appeared ca. in 1500 BC and again approx. in 1424 BC, it was not during Easter, i.e. not at the beginning of the exodus, but at other seasons of the years.
          Around 50 per cent of all comets are non-periodic comets only appearing once. It is very unlikely that one comet among the 4-5 non-periodic comets normally appearing each century, however rarely visible, should match the biblical description of the phenomenon.
          Chinese reports with the oldest known observations of comets show that the only comet (here: non-periodic) that appeared in the year of the exodus, was observed in 1495 B.C., i.e. 40 years before the exodus.
          An explanation and dating of the phenomenon by means of a comet can thus be excluded with reference to the reasons mentioned.

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          The very implementation of the difficult start of the exodus was monumental. That later the phenomena have been described as miraculous is absolutely irrelevant. This, however, has caused rejection of the narrative as pure superstition and myth.
          Still, based on the texts about Moses' clever leadership of the armed emigrants - with everything so well under control - it is obvious that the pillars of cloud/smoke and of fire as well as the wall of fire were well-known remedies being used in the military tactics of that time. Thus without any military technological characteristics of myths.

         Ove von Spaeth, (28.Nov.2009) - excerpts from my book "The Varnished Successor" (2001)

         Regarding more solutions concerning the exodus, see: "The day the sun stood still ..."

¤ Reader's mail, 14 April 2002  -  comments and questions:
The larger historical dimension

After now having read several of Ove von Spaeth's books about Moses, and I have noticed that they could be said to on specific points extending the concept of history by including a series of magical and spiritual circumstances. What has caught my interest, is the ancient kings' and army chiefs' use of magic, all of which in the books is presented on an equal footing with the other historical events. Here parts of the more obscure pages of ancient history are being illuminated.
          In connection with the reference to the background of Moses, I have followed with interest in particular ancient Egyptian mystery play, "Freemasons' rituals", ritual healing, magic, and special ideas behind the religious royal power. And further on:  oracles, divine conception, star knowledge, and cosmology. It has provided a relevance which, considering what we have read about it here, seems to have lacked until now, when we in other cased are being informed of the history of ancient times.
          Today, when we can speak more openly about new "insights", many feel that also some of the ancient knowledge is aroused to life again - perhaps to a kind of "awareness" here in our 21st century. It makes relevance to ask whether some of these topics may have contributed by the incentive to write these books?

J. Casper Andersen, Valby Langgade 6, DK-2500 Valby - (14.Apr.2002)

(publication approved in writing of 16.4.2002, by J.C. Andersen)

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::   OvS's reply.   - Moses' and Egypt's history can hardly be understood in the larger perspective, if these elements in question are omitted. Inevitably Moses has also been trained in the Egyptian traditions' legacy of spiritual knowledge. Thus, it was a culture also being expressed through a spiritual architecture and art, surpassing everything we know of by any civilization. Many people are being influenced by the encounter, even so many thousand years after its presence.
          Several previous reviews of the books may in some cases have given the impression that it mostly concerned the history of religions. However, the special material presented by the books is really the most exciting by itself and in the depth it becomes further clear that often the people of those times showed to be of a general awareness of issues such as:  the interaction between the heavenly and earthly forces. Spirit, soul, the cosmos, life and vital power are all built into the ancient knowledge of the celestial world and various natural forces on Earth.
          Here the ancient people concerned operated by a concept on multiple dimensions of the  psychological levels; and now in our own time a particular trend is to be seen in which such forms of knowledge eventually - beyond among the implied only - reaches much further out:
          - A reviewer wrote about his impression of the books: "... Moses was born to be a pharaoh in the mighty Egypt of those days, inaugurated in the ancient esoteric wisdom, and in regards to intelligence standing well above his contemporaries. He was clearly a highly refined soul that could lead the people a step further in development. ..."

          Also, as another of the reviewers argued: "... Moreover, Ove von Spaeths works about Moses provide new and exciting approaches to ancient Egyptian mystery cults and relevant initiation rituals - and contribute to the understanding of the special spiritual character of architecture and of the pictorial arts' laws and design. ..."
          History offers at this level especially an important resource that can supply the hitherto general or customary understanding.

Ove von Spaeth

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¤ Letter, 2 October 2002  -  concerning the Moses-problem:
Assassinating Moses?

Via the Internet I read about your books and read the English version of Chapter 1 and 2. I wonder, whether there would be a similar résumé in English or German of succeeding books? I am sorry, but I am not able to read Danish, but I would even be willing to pay for a manuscript or a résumé of your researches in English. As an author of a biography about Martin Buber (Herder, Freiburg), the points you made are of high interest for me.
          If the above mentioned publications are not available in one of the two languages, would you be kind enough to answer the following questions in short:
          1.    If Moses was the son of pharaoh's daughter (the queen Hatshepsut), who was his father? How do you construct his connection with the Hebrews/Israelites?
          2.    What was the reason for the "assassination" you mention in chapter 1. Why could Hatshepsut not protect him?
          3.    Do you see any connection between Moses and Amenhotep IV (Iknaton)? Or to put the question in another way: Do you see the roots for Moses' monotheism in the sun cult(s) in Egypt?
          With kind regards and good wishes for your researches,

Hans-Christian Kirsch /(Frederik Hetmann), Westerwaldstr. 33 b, D-Limburg/Lahn, Germany, - Fax: 06431-28 39 89  -  (2 October 2002)

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::   OvS's reply.    For the moment, unfortunately, no books are available in other languages. - Concerning the other questions:

          1)   In the hieros-gamos ritual Jethro (a relative to the royal family) was used as a stand in for the 12-year-old prince Tuthmosis (II). Jethro was then exiled. The Egyptian name Jethro (Iteru) is his religious title and means (God of) the Nile-river, and even in Hebrew it has the contextual meaning: flood or submerge.
          Moses (formerly high-ranking Egyptian prince) used the Hebrews (now being a mixed group, the Israelites) as his supporters in an Egyptian civil war, according to the Egyptian-Greek historian Manetho, ca. 280 BC.

          2)   There were ongoing plots against Hatshepsut when she became the ruling queen - and more so when she was crowned to be pharaoh. If her son, prince Moses, should became pharaoh one day, her status would then be the Queenmother, the most secure, high-ranking position at all for a woman at court.
          When she and her son would oppose the powerful priesthood, the latter wanted to destroy her position, a task beginning by destroying her son's position.
          Hebrew historians quoting the Rabbinical Writings - and the early Fathers of Church quoting Egyptian sources - all telling about a set up to get rid of Moses from the court. My books show and disclose important historical details from the Rabbinical Writings, placed in relation to modern Egyptian archaeology and epigraphical studies.

          3)   Even before the era of the pyramids, 2500 BC, the ancient Egyptians had a doctrine expressing "only one creator-god". This type of "monotheism" is also documented to have been known at the time of Amenhotep II who, actually, was "the evil pharaoh" mentioned in the Bible. 100-150 years later, Amenhotep IV (Akhenaten) may have been inspired by Moses' religious reform.
          Yet, in contrast to Moses' religion, the concept of the new religion of pharaoh Amenhotep IV contained e.g. a non-invisible god, and was also expressing a special political aim: to oppose the Amon-priests' organization.

Ove von Spaeth


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¤ Kristeligt Dagblad (Danish daily), 31 May 2005 (p.8)  -  Debate:
When Archaeological Finds Fit Biblical Statements

By  OVE VON SPAETH
 

THE OLD TESTAMENT. The special branch of biblical research, The "Copenhagen School", ought to look a bit closer at the archaeological finds, before the Bible to a large extend is rejected as a historical source.


A certain attention was emphasized by Nicolai Winther-Nielsen, Doctor of Theology - in the Kristeligt Dagblad (Danish daily), May 23, 2005 - that due regard should be taken to the historical statements of biblical texts. At this connection, he attacks what he calls the "one-sided truth" proclaimed by the Theological Faculty of the University of Copenhagen.
           However, Niels Peter Lemche, Doctor of Theology and Professor in the said faculty, replies - on May 25, in the Kristeligt Dagblad - that Winther-Nielsen's ideas will "lead to limited reading and understanding".
          The gentlemen have flown to each other's throats and are mutually accusing each other of narrow one-sidedness and even of a kind of fundamentalism.

          How can we trust these gentlemen's scientific abilities on the basis of ideas being presented as subjective, emotional statements?
          Nevertheless, it is relieving to know the existence of several and more diversified views at the biblical history than the massive rejection of the Bible as a historical source, which the faculty, the so-called "Copenhagen School", is representing - often very autocratically - and where the idea for instance is that Joshua's invasion of Canaan is a myth only.

          But is it? The Tell el-Amarna letters of the archives of Pharaoh Amenhotep III and Akhenaton (found in 1887) state that the city princes and governors in Canaan - at that time Egyptian dominated - for a period of some 20 years asked Egypt for help against the intruding Apiru people, i.e. the Hebrews.
          The number of years is in accordance with the biblical description stating that the invasion took place for approx. 21 years.
          The Tell el-Amarna letters and the Bible are also in accordance when it comes to names of all these leaders and their exact localities, literally repeated in the biblical "Book of Joshua".
          The corresponding probable time of the invasion has also been rejected, however on a scarce basis. Even though the name of Joshua can be found in these letters, the objection has been "the lack of proof that Joshua is identical to the biblical Joshua". From an isolated position this imay of course be true, but it does lack an overall view. - At least, the very existence of the name has to be taken into consideration and not just being ignored as it has been the practice hitherto. And why was it - the ignorance - done so thoroughly?

          These Tell el-Amarna letters are only a minor part of the indications. There exists a vast amount of more. For instance the excavation of Jericho done by John Garstang, the British Archaeologist, disclosing the collapse of city walls (with evident traces of an earth quake) - exactly as in the biblical narrative, which is also mentioning the house of Rahab on top of the wall, and a burning down of the city, and the prior looting of all metal items.
          Garstang did in fact find houses on top of the wall and remains of actual fires arranged to burn down the city, together with fact that only this city - among a number of other Jerichos built on top of each other - was totally robbed of all kinds of metal.
          The Israelites were not allowed to take other things, according to the Bible, and the excavation of precisely this city-layer shows that here the stocks were full of grain, although the rambling tribal people most necessarily could have used it. In the same time it further confirms the Bible's statement that the attack was early in the summer, thus with the springtime harvest just gathered in. An additional confirmation is that it was not normally a strategic time to besiege a city where the food stocks were full - but the actual wall-tumbling earthquake was thus the helper.
          A later dating, suggested via Kathleen Kenyon, another British archaeologist - however, contradicting at some points, but also partly influenced by errors - has no effect, because modern, objective, chemical analyses of ceramic coating (found in this specific city-layer) prove that the Garstang dating - which, furthermore, is supported by findings, in this stratum, of Amenhotep III's seal marks - exactly is the most probable date.
          Kenyon's results per se were quite reasonable, and she should be quoted from these only. But the prevailing view influenced the interpretation, so even still it is claimed that she "has proven" that the Israelites had not besieged Jericho in 1200 BC, because at that time the city was a ruin and deserted, and "that is why the invasion by the Israelites is a myth". - However, the matter is instead precisely the fact that an overwhelming documentation indicates unambiguously that they arrived around 200 years earlier, while the city still existed intact.

          I do not intend to state that most of the texts in the Bible are scientific-historically true - for instance, there seems to be some omissions created by ancient editors among the copying priestly scribes, however, this is not the point here at all. But it should be noted in this connection that not long ago the established research stated similarly that even Buddha himself was a myth, and that for instance the Hittites, the city of Troy, and King Midas were all myth, too. But, all of this had to been withdrawn again following archaeological disclosures of unavoidable hard core proofs.
          Such a form of rejection as a principle is known as late as up till 1960, when the Viking bases in America 500 years prior to Columbus were alleged to be "anecdotic narratives" of the sagas; however, in the said year 1960 archaeologists found at Newfoundland, and at other east coast sites decisive traces, which to the tiniest local details are corresponding with the 1,000 year old tales.

          Although a few researchers in the 19th century had dug in the sand and by coincidence found the possible site of Babylonia, they did not find anything to justify the brilliant Babylonia of reality. Hereby, the academic critics never doubted their own judgment, so Herodotus' narrative, 450 BC, about Babylonia was considered as not only generally unreliable, but very untrustworthy.
          And when also the Bible mentions the very Nebuchadnezzar, this king was claimed to be a myth. In 1899, however, Robert Kaldewey, the German archaeologist, arrived - and during the next 20 years he found what Herodotus (and the Bible) informed about:  Nebuchadnezzar's palace, the Ishtar Gate, the foundations of the Babel Tower and, in 1913, a huge, special terrace area, which in all probability should be the famous hanging gardens.

          Also the fact that the Israelites for many years as a people's army were wandering in the desert, was definitely claimed to be a myth, because this was being considered to have been a completely unlikely way of surviving, and it left no traces. Even the fact that Mao Zedong and his huge army - more than a hundred thousand rebel troops and their families - did exactly the same in the deserted areas of China, from 1934 and forward, do not at all change a bit concerning the many theologians' rejection of Moses and the Israelite Exodus which they claim to be a biblical "myth".
          The phenomenon by itself is well-known and appears sooner or later at most institutions and workplaces. When some researchers or employees who are 'dogmatic' opponents of any change and then from other colleagues receive information about that things may also be implemented in new ways, then much effort will be directed to prove that the new concept is inferior and that it cannot be done - and also to get things not to work as intended so that those colleagues' lack of competence can be demonstrated. Yet, concerning new theories or approaches it is often forgotten take into account that simultaneously there must also be created better conditions for presenting the results.

          Regarding ancient history of relevance here, the interested reader can find further comprehensive archaeological and textual proofs in my book, "The Vanished Successor" (Assassinating Moses, Vol. 3), in which several chapters deals with the so often debated Israelite invasion of Canaan, the traces of which being closely documented in details - to an extent never published before as a total presentation.

Ove von Spaeth, Writer, Researcher, - copyright © 2005  - www.moses-egypt.net  -  (31.May,2005)
 

¤ moses-egypt.net,  Zenith IC project  -  21 September 2009  -  comment: 
The Rejection of Concrete History

By  OVE VON SPAETH, writer

Many researchers believe that biblical texts cannot be used as source material for historical purposes, although the problem often stems from insufficient knowledge.
         Also, a screwy position is to be observed among not so few scientists lacking limits to how much a researcher can assert without documentation. Our problem is to inform on avoiding that theories, as has happened, become monopolizing dictates often making it extremely difficult for other new knowledge to be heard.
          It is highly essential that we are more conscious about our rich history, cultural roots and values - also regarding responsible freedom in science dissemination.

PART 1

Academic Theories Contra Historical Reality
Many researchers believe that biblical texts cannot be used as source material for historical purposes. However, the problem more likely stems from insufficient historical knowledge.
          Around the late 1800's, theological researchers and historians began experimenting by making "models" and reconstructing a creation and development of the texts - and to when their formation might have taken place. But it was derived from hypotheses and assumptions mainly based on textual material alone. This - rarely recognized - one-sidedness naturally made sufficiently critical and qualified judgment of the then-available data almost impossible. The problem is that this background was forgotten little by little and many ideas from these provisional models almost became assumed as "the truth".
          Thus, it was fatal to the study of the Bible's specific information about Moses that, especially in philological research, academic hypotheses as to how the biblical texts were created were developed prior to scientific archaeological excavations, analyses, and conclusive findings. As a consequence this unfortunate starting point led in an increasingly mistaken direction. (All this is further elaborated on in a 'The 70-Item Catalogue on Biblical Research' - in my book, "The Secret Religion", pp. 310-340).

Research Rested Too Long
It was claimed by the German theologian, Orientalist, and Semitic scholar, Julius Wellhausen (1844-1918) that the biblical texts had been subjected to alterations or had been adapted and, in particular, pieced together from old sources (the "documentary" theory) which were often myth material revised or even written by many authors.
          As a downright fashion wave the Wellhausen ideas quickly spread also to other areas, i.e. non-biblical disciplines of text research. This can for instance be seen in some of the later analyses of Nordic sagas.
          For more than hundred years an extreme version of Wellhausen's hypothesis on such alleged text division - later represented as the so-called Berlin School or the German School - continued to have quite a dominating influence on the many researchers' and non-researchers' perception of the texts. In various ways it still influences much biblical information in encyclopaedias and literature - for instance, a claim that the Bible contained six Books of the Pentateuch, established by including the Book of Joshua, became also a fashionable "truth" for many years.

          This German School's increasingly complex method of classifying the biblical texts, the so-called "documentary"theory, is based on, among other things, the idea that because that double names and descriptions of the Israelite god appear in the texts as well as double versions of events, territories, and laws, these texts must necessarily stem from different sources. As this seemed very convincing viewed from that angle, the problem was that much of the biblical research on such points found repose to some degree through the succeeding century.
          A similar contradiction can be observed with some theological schools and branches of Egyptology, where new and improved data of the research on Moses are being ignored or rejected, because it is preferred that the hitherto picture should not be changed or disturbed.

          Thus, with several thousand years of distance, some influential schools of research allege to know much better about the texts than the ancient authors who wrote them. It is an indisputable fact that none of the learned men in antiquity, not even those who were opponents to the Bible or the Jews, has denied the existence of Moses. The denial proclaimed among today's researchers would have been considered arrogant.
          And the conclusive point: obviously, good knowledge of history and history-literary matters is in short supply - not only in general but also among many experts.
          Culture of the western world has changed with express speed during the latest decades of the 20th century, so it is only natural if much of ancient knowledge now is considered less relevant. But is it realistic and useful to do this to such an extent? But this is further encouraged by the fact that many theorists with their obviously limited insight and their attitudes to the past, are judging in a way as if they wanted to abolish history.

The Claimed Myths and Concrete History
A problem appears to occur when from their present time related positions many researchers of ancient texts obviously having difficulties in perceiving circumstances concerning some of famous authorships of antiquity. Instead of respecting the factual distance of several thousands of years concerning knowledge and insight, and admit that these qualities have only partly been achieved, some important ancient writers are now being claimed to be myths and the texts being written and pieced together by many other writers - and always at a time much later than indicated in the texts.
          Also, it is claimed that events mentioned in the texts have never taken place - and likewise they are also myths. As an example, the recounts presented in the Moses texts from about 1400 BC are claimed to have been written in around 300 BC.
          Based on their contents of narratives, rules, and poems, numerous attempts have been made to demonstrate that the Pentateuch, the Books of Moses, have been written by many different writers - as if writers can only write in one style although it is elementary that a writer, who writes poems, can also write prose; likewise that a lawyer can formulate texts for legal documents and change his style when, for instance, private circumstances are being described.

          History presents many writers who have written in distinctively different styles in their epos, poems, and political texts, respectively. Generally, world history can hardly present a major literary document which can be characterized as having an unfailing, consistently pure style. Nevertheless, study of sources is guided by armchair theories with a Utopian, stylistic ideal of uniformity.
          That the Moses texts should be a conglomerate from many writers will, however - on this complex background - still reflect the same lunacy as "placing a thousand monkeys in front of typewriters in order to reproduce Shakespeare" through millions of years.
          Many researchers adopted the attitude that Abraham and Moses are pure fiction, and that the exodus never took place - and most of the Bible consists of fictional, national-ideological narratives set in a 'patchwork' of religious backgrounds; everything claimed to have been invented by the Jewish priests ca. 300 BC.

A 'knowledge filter' making the Egyptian Factor invisible
The Bible does not identify itself as a being historically-critical account, but may yet be a real source. On many occasions the theologians' research has only rarely been able to analyse archaeology and history in a sufficiently professional way. For instance, they have firmly maintained that double names and descriptions - like Yahweh/El, Jacob/Israel and double reproductions of events, territories, and law texts - should prove that quite many sources have been incorporated into one.
          If only the researchers in question had known that double forms were common and appreciated already in the oldest texts of the Middle East in names, references of events, and in songs - as proved e.g. by Lévi-Strauss, the structuralist: in Babylonia and Egypt and among the Hittites the names of kings and gods are very often seen in double forms.

          Although strongly contradicted by many new findings and discoveries, it is still often being claimed that the Bible should only be seen as a purely literary poem or work of fiction. But many times in the Pentateuch it is clearly stated that Moses himself is the writer. The assumed later alterations and additions do not necessarily deprive Moses of this authorship of the basic texts. But many researchers have considered text alterations and possible modifications of older expressions as confirmation that the entire text stemmed from the much later times of the modernized expressions.
          As for historical plausibility of the oldest parts of the Bible, i.e. the Pentateuch, biblical research has generally neglected the fact that these texts can give specific information about individuals, times and sites - i.e. exactly as required for legal evidence in court - contrary to legends and folk-tales, where these factors are unclear. Some researchers who at an early stage were on a better track which often was in better agreement with archaeology can still be seen rejected with the non-argument that "they are obsolete".
          The Rabbinical Writings - with their vast, ancient collection of biblically related texts of which the oldest parts are of the same age as the oldest parts the Bible - are an absolute necessity for the understanding of so many, also Egyptian circumstances referred to in the Bible, all of which is often ignored by researchers of the Bible and of history as well.

          Offshoots of the German School - also in an Anglo-Saxon and Scandinavian framework, as for instance the so-called "the Copenhagen School" which deprives Moses of all historical identity - have omitted to observe the Egyptian factor although it is among the most important elements in the understanding of many claimed textual discrepancies. A "knowledge filter" has been created that automatically filters everything out which is not in accordance with prevailing theories; but down-to-earth critics would call it 'killing history'!
          But the huge material published in the book-series "Assassinating Moses" - in contrast to the orthodox research's more extreme view with a non-historical Moses - has factually all the way through been able clearly to demonstrate Moses' intimate connection with especially the Egyptian universe.

PART 2

Consensus and myth-theory about Moses
The achievements of the historical Moses are known as a milestone of the early part of our cultural history. So we may really wonder why some modern scholars without solid proof try to establish theories which are cutting off an important background of our common ancient history.
          Some of the influential academic circles internationally have presented the strange theories which, for instance, reject totally the existence of Moses and the Israelites' exodus from Egypt. By lack of firm scientific evidence for myth-theories about Moses the mentioned groups often use the artificial "argument" that there is a majority, a consensus, for this decision concerning history. In fact, this is an illusion and not unusual when few researchers set the picture while a larger number who have not researched details, then just follow based on various other reasons, if any.

          Consensus in itself can be very handy as a temporary platform. But we have every right to be properly informed on all matters, including on existing evidence material which contradicts  consensus about the unfounded ideas of claiming many historical events to be simply myths.
          However, the attempt being executed to eliminate the presence of another, even reinforced concrete image - as being presented in my books - is not the same as having solved the problem concerning the enigmatic ancient events of Moses.
          The research results achieved and published in my books were, unfortunately, at first kept away from normal procedure of being debated but instead, as documented, they were by some mysterious causes treated with exquisite ignorance by the learned circles in question. Also this conduct will rapidly become old cases, so why bother publishing such academic disputes? Because it is currently of great importance to provide information about such kind of academic absurdities that even in modern enlightened time are creating hindrances for bringing new knowledge through.

Where are the much-needed science standards and ethics?
From a row of surprising examples it is easy to observe how outrageously some researchers are struggling more for faith than for knowledge. Without wanting to see the ethical problem of violating other researchers' right to have another seriously substantiated opinion, the scholars in question insist on over-protecting their own ideas and perceptions, whether insufficient and unclear. In science a giant misunderstanding; ideas must be challenged.
          A particular sequence of events after the release of my book-series on the historical Moses discloses a large group of academics' shocking actions by their actual suppression of a rich heritage of knowledge they obviously do not want to be known. This influenced their colleagues and the press into silence. It worked because it is so grotesque that no one would believe it is true. The curious academic reactions towards much of the new information will be used constructively here:
          As a starting point the attempts of repression and dictatorship of opinions became a catalyst and main reason to convey an acquaintance with important historical information as well as, from public practice, a number of interesting and very necessary scientific standards. And in addition, a reminder of the existence of the often invisible but indispensable science ethics. The standards were developed to limit the risks of science astray and misconduct and should therefore have a very widespread attention.

PART 3

Where is the much-needed documentation?
It is a true art to be in doubt, a noble gift for a researcher. Scientists should continuously be in doubt about their own judgments and predictions, and the insufficient knowledge of all the interaction components on which judgments and predictions are founded.

          An example. After years of silence on a particular topic the American secret service CIA published in 2005 some detailed aerial photographs from the Turkish-Russian border with views of Mount Ararat. By seeing this very high mountain, often mostly know from the Bible story of Noah's ark, some people got inspired to prepare an expedition leading up to the mountain's eternal snow to look for possible permafrost remains of some tracks from that time. Do they not find such they could find something else new. A curiosity and interest most praiseworthy. Perhaps inspired by the discovery of the through 5,300 years preserved Oetzi man mummified in the permafrost up in the Austrian Alps .
          But typically, a comment from docent dr. divine John Strange from the Faculty of Theology, University of Copenhagen, in Kristeligt Dagblad, daily (26.May,2005), on the Noah's Ark-inspiration: "You cannot find evidence of a narrative" and "historic support of the Bible through archaeology is at best naive and at worst untruthful." Strange does not use documentation - to bear in mind when reading about other scholars having the same habitude.
          Modern archaeology has won the prestigious achievements in ancient Egypt and Babylonia - and has enriched our knowledge enormously about our history. But, now it is told us here that similar findings do not count when it concerns the Bible. It has been agreed upon by himself.

          Another example is on a disastrous episode at the preparations of Thor Heyerdahl's later so famous Kon-Tiki expedition across the South Pacific in 1947. Various U.S. funds and big banks would be funding with major donations. The New York Academy of Sciences is the third oldest scientific society in the U.S. and the most powerful and significant - an independent, non-profit organization with more than 25,000 members extending to 140 countries. But the Academy's president, a renowned scientist, was negatively outraged by the media's preoccupation with the exciting, upcoming research voyage - and he swore to the press that the expedition's raft of balsa-wood would sink when being more than a week at sea.
          The fact that this authority thus pre-judged the case to failure, caused the whole of the promised financiering now being rejected, and the expedition had to be abandoned. It was rescued only because a Norwegian shipping company finally stepped in and paid. The balsa raft sailed on the Pacific Ocean in altogether 101 days from Peru to the Tuamotu Islands in French Polynesia.

The mysterious destructive actions
What makes such a scientist to harm other people's research work? His word alone are of power, so he does not use the documentation. Why he did he not avoid his embarrassing unintelligent response and instead from the beginning made some tests with concrete facts, for example, simply by throwing some balsa wood into a full bath tub for a week just to see what happens?
          On 17th November 2009 some Russians hacked the server at the University of East Anglia. Here, from the archives of the major international climate research, was stolen over 1,000 of the researchers' e-mails: A special selection was published and revealed illusory consensus, mutual shocking harassments and intrigues, and skeptics were systematically scorned and swindled with their rebuttals. Why? Here we lose progress.
          And what makes an Egyptologist at the University of Copenhagen to write a hate letter about Ove von Spaeth's books researching Moses and Egypt? The letter was sent to C.A. Reitzel Publishers, Copenhagen, dated 15th June 1999, exactly the same day when Berlingske Tidende (daily) published a full page very enthusiastic review. The Egyptologist (whom I have never met or seen) was strongly opposing that academic professionals had recommended my books, and he claimed, as a natural cause, without documentation to the fact that their statements are lies.
          By using the Copenhagen University's official correspondence letters this subdirector and Egyptologist Paul John Frandsen wrote a hate letter to the author's publishing house, claiming:
                    "... It is tragically that C.A. Reitzel Publishers Ltd. have sunk so low that they will even publish this kind of insanity, and that the publisher dares to print statements purportedly written by people who have been dead for a long time, and by researchers who have never written what they are quoted having written. The entire publication is deeply disgraceful and deeply deceptive. (Without greetings:) Paul John Frandsen (Carsten Niebuhr Institute, University of Copenhagen) ..."

          It should surely be allowed to take the credit for the fact that my books seem to be of particular class since they have been such a subject of an unprecedented attention which only happens to very few works. It is obviously proven by the peculiar action by some academics and others through the press, in letters, and even by telephone creating a pressure directed against a whole range of researchers and scholars who have been helpful to the book project
.
          In none of these cases has there been observed any compliance with any minimum standard of seriousness and legitimate science. The pathetic effort in approach and motivation comprises some involuntary comedy, and has in addition resulted in fine effects of publicity for the books.
          None of the books are directed to controversy or provocation. But the contents' new-orientation concerning Moses is here found so markedly that the opposition has tried to "fight the messenger", although it is an existing often suppressed material which in itself actually can be seen as being undermining some special studies at the universities: "... it is a book that we are going to fight with for many years ... " (as expressed by Kim Ryholt and Karen Jensen, the Carsten Niebuhr Institute at the Copenhagen University, - in Berlingske Tidende (daily) 3.Aug.1999, section Universe p.10). Again, why this "fight with"? Why not work with? Now, instead it has to be about transforming it into something constructive and forward looking.

Unscientific treatment of important parts of history
Modern test formulas might be in use here - Rudolf Carnap's verification principle, Karl Popper's falsification formula, Thomas S. Kuhn's paradigm shift discovering with important criteria for basic definitions and acceptable theory-establishing, and we have structuralism models (systems analysis and technical objectivity), etc., etc.
          "Science" 2.Oct.2009 bringing 11 articles about a 4.4 mill. year old remains of a prehistoric woman unearthed in 1994 in Ethiopia. 47 scientists from 9 nations have sent detailed fossil analysis to be checked in laboratories around the world. So reliably during 15 years, without displeasure!
           Also a mathematician must be equally careful when hypotheses for solving a practical problem, for example, a calculated prediction to a current action. He can include as many factors as possible, all sorts of discrepancies, contradictions, and barriers even those with only minimal impact on the final outcome. From these facts and data algorithms are established to be included in the total formula in order to achieve as near a realistic result as possible. Insurance companies are using such formulas for risk assessment.
          Therefore, in the humanities the involved research groups concerning the historical Moses it is strange to see when they course important factors to be directly left out just in case these could oppose the groups' hypothesis and they believe this action to be legitimized by naming these left parts as 'myths'. One can for clarity causes cut off small non-significant details, but here we are talking about main lines too. Science would be a very misunderstood designation here.

A showdown with the Society of Know-all Attitudes
In any case, my books are - rather than with an exaggerated focus on considerations and theories - instead based on getting the all most very concrete historical facts presented. For example, the last volume of the Moses series contains 50 dense pages of bibliography with data from 120 years of research. The point is avoiding missing anything of relevance and thus not risking reducing the value of the final result.
          Although it is elementary that the facts naturally should be in focus we constantly see surprisingly many cases where researchers have fallen into the trap of being almost totally preoccupied with the theories alone.
          Should I then defend my books against the Society of Know-all Attitudes? A counter-response is important for research, and now this is implemented by marking the existence of important alternatives. - Thus, in a broader perspective in modern archaeological technology, astronomical dating, or when DNA tests from mummies are in use for detection of inter-connected family groups, it is of greatest interest when we have those cases where the data obtained may prove possible to be related to the ancient sources.
          So, regarding research's possibly changing considerations on certain historical facts, these in themselves do not alter their existence, regardless of any temporary consensus turning its back against this, but they retain their value for future benefit of future research.
          It should be in the interpretation of such sometimes unique facts, we may disagree, but certainly not that they should be ignored.

          Ove von Spaeth, - Zenith IC Project - www.moses-egypt.net - (21.Sep.2009)

¤ Studies: catastrophic events   -  21 January 2010  -  History: 
The catastrophic events of the Ten Plagues ?

Dear Mr. von Spaeth,  - for your book perhaps you may contact William Mullen, Languages and Literature Professor of Classical Studies at Bard College, Annandale-on-Hudson, New York,
who dealt with the publication in U.S. of Felice Vinci book on Homer in the Baltic (now available also in Russian, Estonian, Swedish... should be available in Danish).
          I have been concerned with Moses in the last few years but mainly on the reasons of the catastrophic events of the Ten Plagues, to be associated to Deucalion Flood on basis of Orosius et at, and on the geography of his route in Sinai, where you must identify Baal Sefon, what again no one has been able to do correctly, and keep to the info in Josephus and Cosmas, what no one has considered in the books I read.
          Once you identify Baal Seefon then you see also that canonical Gospels refer to Jesus having been in India! Which I realized after reading the Gospels over twenty times in my life.
          Do you have English abstracts of your books? - Regards,

Emilio Spedicato, Professor of operations research at the University of Bergamo, Department of Mathematics, emilio@unibg.it - Università di Bergamo - (21.Jan.2010)

- see OvS's answer in the following mail, below.

¤ Phenomena in connection with the Exodus  -  21 January 2010  -  History: 
Enigmatic ages, years, cycles, and numbers

          Ove von Spaeth's response to some of the questions of prof. Spedicato's mail above.
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Many thanks for what you have sent - it is all very interesting and informative. You ask for abstracts of the books - if you click on the five books' introduction pages - for example in this case vol. 1:  http://www.moses-egypt.net/book1/moses1-introduc_en.asp  and then you go to a section (normally Section 5 or 6) containing: "Summary - some synoptic clues" - thus the Abstracts !

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          # Concerning some of the strange phenomena in connection with the Exodus, you may be interested in these texts on page:  http://www.moses-egypt.net/book3/moses3-debate_en.asp
then go to the headlines called: "On the phenomena in the sky seen by the Israelites" - and also especially this: "The pillars of the cloud and of fire, during Exodus",
          - and on page: http://www.moses-egypt.net/book3/moses3-reviews-2part_en.asp  go to section 4: "The Day the Sun Stood Still ..."

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          #  Concerning: >>Jesus having been in India....
According to biblical-extern accounts Jesus also lived and taught in India for some time. Anyhow, the grand opening of the Gospel of St. John is word by word as in Sanskrit from India's more than 3,000 years old Veda scriptures. According to the authority, Sir John Woodroofe's "The Garland of Letters" (7th ed., Pondicherry 1979, p.4) those texts state that:

"... Prajapatir vai idam asit: 'In the beginning was Brahma',
tasya vag dvitiya asit: 'by whom was "vag" or the word',
vag vai paramam Brahma: 'and the word is Brahma'...".

This text is recognized in the initiating lines of Gospel of St. John in the original Greek version, where the lines are not inserted in random form but placed in a particular linguistic lay-out which distributes words and letters according to specific numbers.
          By this the symmetries are obtained - at that time attributed extraordinary significance. The structure is forming this synergy effect with the three key concepts: logos, light, and life:

"... In the beginning was the logos,
and the logos was with God,
and the logos was (as) God,
this (logos) was in the beginning with God.
- All things were made by it
and without it became nothing of that which has become.
- In it was life,
and life was human light.
The light shines in darkness,
and darkness did not grab (understood) it (the light) ...".

It has several layers of symmetries. For example, the first four lines' number of Greek letters are symmetrically arranged as 15, 12, 12, 15.
          After the fourth line, the number of the actual Greek words has this symmetry 7, 12 (4 +8), 12 (4 +8), 7.
          The number of letters or words in all the lines are numbers being also attached particular significance, including as power (potency) numbers.

All the lines above are extracts from my vol. 4 about the historical Moses, "The Secret Religion", 2004, pp. 140-141. (I look forward to one day seeing it published in English).

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          # Concerning >>Felice Vinci book on Homer in the Baltic .....
- maybe you find something of interest in my article "When Homer, Moses and other authorships are being split up to appear in greater numbers" on this web page:
 http://www.moses-egypt.net/book-series/debates-continuing-d_en.asp

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A special treasure of knowledge and wisdom of Greece, Rome, and the Renaissance had originated in Ancient Egypt - and was here known to connect also with the historical Moses' dramatic fate and mystery.
          Ove von Spaeth has written an intriguing, new-orientating work presenting this still influential background of our civilization. His interdisciplinary research on history, archaeology, and anthropology goes deeply into Egyptian tradition, history of religion, initiation cults, star-knowledge, and mythology - relating to biblical studies, the Rabbinical Writings, and the authors of Antiquity. Each volume offers unique insights not presented before.
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